Print Page | Close Window

Forum Mermbers' Discussion of CONAN (2011)

Printed From: Official RAZZIE® Forum
Category: INFO on POSSIBLE 2011 RAZZIE® CONTENDERS
Forum Name: Forum Discussion & Add'l Info on CONAN (2011)
Forum Discription: Here's Where to Express Yer Thoughts & Find Out Credits, B.O. Numbers, Reviews, ETC.
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5296
Printed Date: September 01 2014 at 8:14pm


Topic: Forum Mermbers' Discussion of CONAN (2011)
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Forum Mermbers' Discussion of CONAN (2011)
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 3:42pm
WANNA BREAK a BONE OVER the HEAD of THIS BONE-HEADED REMAKE?  HERE's WHERE to DO SO...

AND HERE's the http://www.razzies.com/forum/official-razzie-take-on-conan-the-barbarian-remake_forum553.html -  to CHECK OUT YE OLDE HEAD RAZZBERRY's OFFICIAL TAKE on http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum-discussion-addl-info-on-conan-2011_forum554.html - ... 




-------------
Ye Olde Head RAZZberry



Replies:
Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 3:45pm
I never liked the original Conan-movies (and I don't know a single person who ever did).  

We are having an exceptionally bad week... Hope the next couple of weeks are better!    


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Ah, but in the "Bizzaro World" that is The RAZZIE® Awards, "an exceptionally bad week" is actually...a Berry Good Week! 




-------------


Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 5:17pm
I should've known the reviews on this remake would eventually descend. I need to see if there are any more nominations I could add this to the list for. The director has the following movies on his resume that caught my attention:
 
*Texas Chainsaw Massacre [remake], the 12th of 40 Worst Films of 2003.
*Friday the 13th [remake], the 25th of 40 Worst Films of 2009.
 
And about the original Conan the Barbarian from 1982... the reviews at Rotten T were 76%, which I consider "very good". Perhaps it was the Golden Globes and Saturn Awards that earned it a spot on my Retro Top 30 Films of 1982. If I thought most of you wouldn't agree with the 40 films that interest me every year since 2000, then the 1980's will be a battlefield!


-------------
Possible Unofficial Forums, given <35% approval: Spt. 12: Dolphin Tale 2, Search Party. Spt. 19: The Maze Runner, Tusk.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 5:53pm
I wouldn't say Jason Momoa will be "forgotten." He also stars in GAME OF THRONES, which I don't watch, but I am aware of its success.

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 5:55pm
R.T.(24-30%):"While its relentless,gory violence is more faithful to the books,it forsakes three-dimensional characters,dialogue and acting in favor of unnecessary 3D effects".

Roger Ebert(1,5/4):"A brutal,crude,witless high-tech CGI contrivance,in which no artificial technique has been overlooked,including 3-D".


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 6:22pm
I LOVED the first Conan but HATED the second one. My review will be up tomorrow.

-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html
Up-next: Transcendence


Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 7:15pm
I absolutely loved the first/1982 movie. However, I was not fond of the 1985 sequel. But I will see this movie sometime this weekend.

-------------
Pictures move, do they?


Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: August 18 2011 at 11:03pm

Let's see if I can sum up the movie as shortly as possible:

Swish of sword, blood everywhere. Swish of sword, plot and character development, what's that? Swish of sword, more under-developed characters get cut down for the sole purpose of bloodshed. Swish of sword, hero walks away into the distance. Lead actor turns to the camera and goes 'And if you don't make a pointless sequal, then to hell with you'.


-------------
You see in this filmmaking world there's two types of people my friend. Those with the knowledge of film and those who think they do but really don't.


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 8:26am
On the bright side: Evidently Jason Momoa has completed the first resume requirement towards eventually becoming a future governor of California.

-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 9:02am
Some of the reviewers (not all) are probably bashing the movie because it's nothing like the 1982 film (which by the way isn't faithful at all to the original stories).  Or is it that they just can't accept anybody but Arnold in the role?  


-------------


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 9:07am
...Or maybe they're bashing it because it's just bad. 

-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 12:42pm
Well, the theater that I went to see this in had a bad projecter. Because of this, the review well be post-poned.
 
On the bright-side, I'll have a review of Ass-face's funniest movie: The Butterfly Effect.


-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html
Up-next: Transcendence


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 6:14pm
Richard Roeper gave it a C-:

http://www.richardroeper.com/reviews/conanthebarbarian.aspx


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: freedom7
Date Posted: August 21 2011 at 2:58pm
The original was so bad it would take great effort for the new one to be any worse. 

Something tells me they'll manage to do it though!  



-------------
http://www.christmas-gifts-for-christmas.com - Christmas Gifts
http://www.settlerscatan.net - Settlers of Catan


Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: August 22 2011 at 10:03pm
It seems as if this movie wants to compete with Mars Needs Moms as the biggest fail of the year

-------------
I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic f**king hatreds! George Carlin


Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: August 23 2011 at 6:14pm
This movie was loaded with action and all other kinds of eye candy that summer movies usually have, and yet, it lost out at the box office to a movie about Southern maids in the 1960s! I guess this means there won't be a "Red Sonya" remake/reboot in the near future? 


-------------
"People say 'It's all about the story’. When you're making tentpole films, bull$hit." -Andy Hendrickson (Disney Animation Studios' Chief Technical Officer)


Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: August 24 2011 at 5:28pm
Here's a http://www.quora.com/Whats-it-like-to-have-your-film-flop-at-the-box-office - LINK to read a great article about one of the CONAN screenwriter's response to his film flopping at the box office...  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Yo, MWG -- Maybe you should check out our Main Page once in a while ( http://www.razzies.com/ -



-------------


Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: August 26 2011 at 11:34am
The article in a nutshell: I'll have to write a better movie next time!

-------------
"People say 'It's all about the story’. When you're making tentpole films, bull$hit." -Andy Hendrickson (Disney Animation Studios' Chief Technical Officer)


Posted By: ITbeast
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

On the bright side: Evidently Jason Momoa has completed the first resume requirement towards eventually becoming a future governor of California.
 
...Or the House of Representatives, I don't see why California must always hog all of Bollywoods....whoops!Sick I meant Hollywood's political glory.


-------------
The "Networking IT" Movie Buff!

Words to live by:
"Money doesn't make you happy. I now have $50 million but I was just as happy when I had $48 million." - Arnold Schwarzenegger


Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 02 2011 at 9:05pm
Because Hollywood's business pretty much controls that state, the studios and their parent companies have so much power and influence there.  
 
Oh, and Bollywood movies often copy and paste from Hollywood movies -- like entire plots and scenes! 

Originally posted by ITbeast

 
...Or the House of Representatives, I don't see why California must always hog all of Bollywoods....whoops!Sick I meant Hollywood's political glory.


-------------
"People say 'It's all about the story’. When you're making tentpole films, bull$hit." -Andy Hendrickson (Disney Animation Studios' Chief Technical Officer)


Posted By: ITbeast
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:52am
Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

 
Oh, and Bollywood movies often copy and paste from Hollywood movies, like entire plots and scenes!
 
Please don't pull a MovieWizeGuy on me and get all literal...it was a "Sarcastic Remark" on BollyWoods take on Hollywoods lack of orginality... One MWG is enough in this forum.


-------------
The "Networking IT" Movie Buff!

Words to live by:
"Money doesn't make you happy. I now have $50 million but I was just as happy when I had $48 million." - Arnold Schwarzenegger


Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 12:11pm
If they keep making remakes like this, we're gonna have to add a bunch more categories:

worst Sequel, rip-off, or remake horror

worst sequel, rip-off, or remake action
 
"                                           " comedy

"                                           " classics

and so on and so forth.


-------------
Lord Naseby read my reviews!

http://lordnasebyblog.blogspot.com/


Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 03 2011 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by ITbeast

Please don't pull a MovieWizeGuy on me and get all literal...it was a "Sarcastic Remark" on BollyWoods take on Hollywoods lack of orginality... One MWG is enough in this forum.
I'm sure many members here would agree that one MWG is more than enough ... although not for the reason you listed. As for your Bollywood joke ... like an airplane, it must have been flying a mile in the air, because it went completely over my head.

-------------
"People say 'It's all about the story’. When you're making tentpole films, bull$hit." -Andy Hendrickson (Disney Animation Studios' Chief Technical Officer)


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by Vits

I wouldn't say Jason Momoa will be "forgotten." He also stars in GAME OF THRONES, which I don't watch, but I am aware of its success.

I just finished watching the 1st season.He was alright.Since he won't return for next season,which I didn't know when I wrote that(nor that he was just a guest),he should be careful with how he chooses movies.


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 11 2011 at 4:01pm
I just saw it,and gave it 3/10.

F.Y.C.:
-Actor for Jason Momoa: No. It was far from a good performance, but he was a decent action star.
-New Star for Jason Momoa: Sure.
-Actress for Rachel Nichols: Yes. While she was nowhere near as bad as in P2, she wasn't passable like in G.I. JOE. Not to mention I don't have much frontrunners in this category.
-Supp. Actor for Ron Perlman: Yes. His role was smaller than in SEASON OF THE WITCH, but he was more over-the-top*.
-Supp. Actor for Stephen Lang: Yes. His role was bigger than Perlman's, and he was as over-the-top as him.
-Supp. Actress for Rose McGowan: Meh.
-Director: Yes. We get it, Marcus Nispel, you like blood. Seriously, this affected me more than any torture porn movie you can mention.
-Screenplay: Yes. This actually features the most stupid scene of the year, where CONAN fights with warriors made of dust. They represent no threat whatsoever. The audience realizes how fragile they are before CONAN does. The fact that TAMARA kills one of them by accident proofs my point. This also features one of the most stupid dialogue lines of the history of cinema: when CONAN is fighting, his opponent says "Barbarian... I don't like you anymore".
-Ensemble: Yes.
-Couple: Maybe. While Momoa and Nichols have some chemistry, their characters have no reason to be together.
-Remake/Rip-Off: Yes. While it's closer to the original stories, unlike the Ah-Nuld version, it doesn't do much justice to them by being such clearly rushed production.
-Picture: No. But I'd like to point out the main reason why this is mediocre: at the beginning, CONAN's father says he's not ready to be use a sword because he attacks without thinking. Then he grows up to be a sadistic f*ck. Then he meets a girl, they fall in love for no reason, he shows he's willing to sacrifice himself for her, and we have to assume he's ready. Except he had always had a heart (his friend says so), he even almost sacrificed himself to save his father as a boy. At the end, he continues to be a sadistic f*ck who attacks without thinking.

*Mickey Rourke turned down this role to play something more similar to Stephen Lang's role in INMORTALS.Confused


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: November 30 2011 at 8:20pm
This movie was very repetitive. 
 
The good: 

Jason Momoa: Momoa is decent as Conan and looks more like the original version than Ah-nuld. 
 
It proves my "faithfulness" point: There's this point that I've been debating with my friends about faithfulness to a movie's source material. The point that I make is that a good adaptation isn't automatically a good movie. 2003's The Hunted is, arguably, a better adaptation of First Blood than the actual First Blood novel, but First Blood's changes were for the better. When judged as adaptations, The Godfather and Jaws are bad, but on their they're two of the best movies ever, mainly because they remove the pointless subplots from the book. To get back to Conan, this movie is arguably a better Conan adaptation than the Ah-nuld one, but the Ah-nuld is just better in every other conceivable way. 
 
The bad: 
 
The special effects: The special effects are crappy here. It's not After Last Season levels, but still pretty bad. 
 
Stephen Lang: Lang is unusually stiff here. On his own, he's bad enough, but compared to James Earl Jones in the original, he comes off even worse. 
 
The script: This is one of the most half-assed scripts in recent memory with terrible dialogue. My favorite bad lign: "Barbarian! I don't like you anymore!" 
 
The ugly: 
 
Rachel Nichols: Nichols, you're back in my cross-hairs again. Shape-up your acting! 

Rose McGowen: McGowen is just bad here. Especially bad was the incestual undertones between her and Stephen Lang's character. 

Marcus Nispel: Dear Nispel, go back to making crappy remakes of horror movies. At least they were fun to watch. 
 
Not much to add here. Grade: C- 
 
Next-up: Spy Kids 4-D!

 


-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html
Up-next: Transcendence



Print Page | Close Window