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Topic: Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Member DISCUSSION of ABDUCTION
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 9:34am
IF YOU'RE ONE of the 78% of http://razzies.com/join.asp - - WHO CAN'T STAND TAYLOR LAUTNER, HERE's YOUR CHANCE to RAG on HIM EVEN WHEN HE's NOT PLAYING a SHIRTLESS WEREWOLF!  

AND IF YOU'RE CURIOUS WHAT YE OLDE HEAD RAZZ-BERRY HAD to SAY ABOUT http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum-discussion-addl-info-on-abduction_forum565.html - , HERE's the http://www.razzies.com/forum/official-razzie-take-on-abduction_forum564.html - to FIND OUT...  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 10:05am
Did I miss something in the trailer*? So he's just the boy next door, who happens to find out he's adopted. Sounds like a Lifetime TV movie. Then, he finds out some conspiracy agency is behind everything. Sounds like a horror movie. Then, all of a sudden, he knows martial arts and can slide through skyscrapers like nobody's business? Sounds like...**

*I'm not being sarcastic.The trailer was so boring I didn't even pay full attention!  
**Feel free to complete this sentence, because I sure as hell can't!


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 12:14pm
Sounds like a crappy movie!

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 3:24pm
Sounds like a parkour thriller to me!  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Sorry to ask this, but is "parkour" a reference to something...or a typo??  




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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 4:42pm
(Note: Spt. 19 is Talk Like a Pirate Day)
 
Taylor Lautner be nothin' but a scurvy dog in front o' the camera... But ye'd be hard-pressed to prove 'im worse than half o' all yer likely contenders fer Worst Actor! I be lookin' at ye, Adam Sandler 'n' Russell Brand!


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 4:49pm
Taylor Lautner can walk the poop-deck! And by poop-deck, I mean the red carpet at the 2012 Razzies!

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 4:51pm
"Parkour" is a type of martial arts/urban dancing move that people do on the streets. It can be seen in the opening action scene of Casino Royale (remake), and I think D13 as well as Step Up 3. It's a pretty amazing thing to do if you've seen anyone do it. I'm sure there are Youtube videos of it, but the dancers use the street, signposts, etc as a way to move. Like in the trailer for Abduction, when Taylor slides down the slope of a building. That is considered parkour.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Thanks for clearing that up for me! 




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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 5:38pm
I love how Hollywood has yet to realize that no one gives a damn about the actors from "Twilight" when they are not starring in "Twilight" movies. Like "Star Wars," it will ruin all their careers, except maybe one of them (much like Harrison Ford was the only actor to find lasting success afterwards, and to a lesser degree, Mark Hamil with his voice acting).

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: September 19 2011 at 6:31pm
HeadRAZZ: Moviewizguy already answered your question for me.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Saw it -- thanks!  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:38am
Oooh! Can't wait until this movie's sequel comes out. I should do something to make sure I'll see it, otherwise I won't know what happens with...wait. I haven't even seen the first one yet.

Hmmm...are this film's makers aware of this?LOL


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:51pm
Well, they already have a release date for the next sequel to Amazing Spider-Man, which opens next year! Then again, Spider-Man is an established franchise...unlike this one!

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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 20 2011 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Well, they already have a release date for the next sequel to Amazing Spider-Man, which opens next year! Then again, Spider-Man is an established franchise...unlike this one!
Ah yes, the ultimate parkour themed movie (and no doubt, one of the main influences in the creation of parkour)! Althought Spider-Man cheats by using webbing!
 
PS: here's a more detailed description of what parkour is: Parkour (also known as Freerunning) is a method of movement focused on moving around obstacles with speed and efficiency. Originally developed in France, the main purpose of the discipline is to teach participants how to move through their environment by vaulting, rolling, running, climbing and jumping. Traceurs (parkour practitioners) train to be able to identify and utilize alternate or the more efficient paths. Parkour can be practiced anywhere, but areas dense with obstacles offer many different training opportunities.
 
In other words, it's running and jumping around from rooftop to rooftop.


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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 8:14am
Lol -- reviews are finally starting to pop up at RT -- When there are only two reviews on Rotten Tomatoes two days before your film comes out and both of them are negative, you know you have a critical flop on your hands. 

Besides Lautner just doesn't cut it as an "action star," though some of his fans will go and support this -- but hey, what else are fans for?  


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by whatsthepoint

Lol -- reviews are finally starting to pop up at RT -- When there are only two reviews on Rotten Tomatoes two days before your film comes out and both of them are negative, you know you have a critical flop on your hands.  
Not really. When you start with 15-20 reviews and they are all negative, THEN you have a contender on your hands.


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Posted By: thomsonmg2000
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 6:32am
While critics are calling Bucky Larson about as funny as a brain tumor, one critic is calling Abduction one of the funniest film of the year! Looks like Hollywood is getting the case of misplaced priorities.

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/abduction-movie-review20110922.aspx - Link

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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 6:42am
Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

While critics are calling Bucky Larson about as funny as a brain tumor, one critic is calling Abduction one of the funniest film of the year! Looks like Hollywood is getting the case of misplaced priorities.

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/abduction-movie-review20110922.aspx - Link


LOL


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 7:15am
I don't remember in which forum, but BHB said a long time ago that it's a bad idea to cast short people who look no older than 18 as action stars (like Mila Kunis in MAX PAYNE). Do you think this applies to Lautner as well? Sure, with his muscles you can believe he could take down other people. But since rumor has it he doesn't take his shirt off this time, we're stuck with his face.

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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 8:31am
Have you seen the movie "Hanna"? Do you think it looks perfectly normal and natural for a little 14 year old looking girl to be beating up and killing people twice her size and age? If yes, then I don't know what to tell you. If no, then you agree with me that when it comes to certain roles, casting people who don't look old enough to vote in action roles or sexy roles is a dumb idea.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 9:09am
1)I was quoting what Burn said.I never said I agreed.
2)I haven't seen HANNA,but apparently it's explained that she's been training since she was born.I hope they explained that with Lautner's character.


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 11:35am

In my opinion, unless the teenager has superpowers, he/she shouldn't be doing the amazing things that they are doing, even if trained at birth. That's where sci-fi works best, when it's used to explained things that normally shouldn't be able to happen. That, and there's the little factor of stuff like Mila Kunis looking too cute to be considered as a badass killer, it's just hard to take seriously.



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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 12:33pm
But hey that's acting for yah.


Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 1:08pm
Oh wow!  LOL LOL LOL LOL  

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

While critics are calling Bucky Larson about as funny as a brain tumor, one critic is calling Abduction one of the funniest film of the year! Looks like Hollywood is getting the case of misplaced priorities.

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/abduction-movie-review20110922.aspx - Link





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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 1:12pm
Acting can only get you so far without having to look the part. It's hard to believe Mila Kunis is going to kill you when she has cute doe eyes and looks like she should be getting ready for the prom. I'm not saying every actor and actress in an action movie needs to look like the cast of "The Expendables," but I do think you should at least look like you're over 21 and have seen many fights and battles in your lifetime!  

Originally posted by whatsthepoint

But hey that's acting for yah.


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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 4:27pm
To me, this movie is just going to be stupid.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 5:04pm
The state of the action hero depends on the context. If they are supposed to be a regular action hero, like Mila Kunis in Max Payne, Vanessa Hudgens in Sucker Punch, or our current subject, than they can be mocked for bad casting. If it's not supposed to be a regular action hero, like Hanna or Kick-Ass, than it's not the same.
 
As it stands, Hanna's the best action movie of the year that doesn't involve Ryan Gosling curb-stomping a mook.


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 8:25pm
Okay, then I wish they would have more Hanna and Kick-Ass type of movies instead of the Kunis(es) and Hudgens(es) of the world being woefully miscast.  

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

The state of the action hero depends on the context. If they are supposed to be a regular action hero, like Mila Kunis in Max Payne, Vanessa Hudgens in Sucker Punch, or our current subject, than they can be mocked for bad casting. If it's not supposed to be a regular action hero, like Hanna or Kick-Ass, than it's not the same.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 11:06am
R.T.(3-7%):"A soulless and incompetent action/thriller not even a veteran lead actor could save,let alone Taylor Lautner".

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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 12:35pm
Souless is so right.


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 12:51pm
At the moment, there's only three postive reviews. And one of them is a review of Moneyball!*
 
*In the comments, one of the administraters said it was being moved to the appropriate page, so move fast!
 
EDIT: And it's been moved. Damn!


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: September 23 2011 at 11:34pm
Movies like Twilight are nothing more than "softcore porn" for girls. Case in point, Taylor has to take off his shirt every 3.45 seconds. This is his idea of how to be taken seriously. But he is still nothing more than eye candy for the obsessed teen girls out there. There are other actors out there with this problem but some of them actually have talent. Like DeCaprio: it took him a while to move past his'pretty boy/Titanic' phase but he actually had the talent to do so. To me, Lautner does not. 

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Posted By: melissa_schnell
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 8:40am
  tsk!  tsk! tsk! . . . poor Taylor Lautner . . .Unhappy

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Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 4:39pm
DiCaprio is almost double his age and had more experience already back then. So careful with your predictions. I thought Leo had some talent ever since playing the challenged kid in "What's eating" but doubted him after "Titanic" and still don't think he is that good.
Having that said, I saw Abduction and yes, it's worserer. Lautner's PR team successfully tricked people into thinking he is the real deal. Now this is quite the reality check.


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Posted By: DaveThePhotoGuy
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 7:40pm
I have seen this film before and better...from the eigthies..with River Phoenix! 
 
And the late River Pheonix still has more talent in his dead  body than Lautner will ever have.  


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Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: September 24 2011 at 11:11pm
OH WOW, I wasn't aware that Lautner *and* Pettyfer have the same agent?!
Maybe they are both brain-washed into believing they 
actually are The Next Big Action Heroes by that same person? Can't be coincidence, now can it, those two being the most over-rated young actors (together with Fernandez)?   

Pettyfer has already been chewed up and spit out again -- wondering now if Lautner will follow that path as well.


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Posted By: DistinguishedFlyer
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 10:22am
You don't have to be much of an actor to be an action star - Schwarzenegger is the classic example. But you do need a certain presence and gravity so that the audience believes you can actually take on bad guys & defeat them. Schwarzenegger had that, and his movies (or should I say their directors) quickly learned how to highlight his good qualities & draw attention away from his deficiencies.

Lautner does not have that - at least not yet, and perhaps never will. You simply don't take him seriously enough, and it's not just because of his past movies (though they certainly don't help him out). 

I'm going to make a flat prediction right now - he will win the Razzie for this movie (and for the Twilight film). It'll be either one nomination for both films (which will guarantee a landslide win) or one lead & one supporting. And perhaps he'll win in both categories . . .  


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 10:42am
Actually, last year Lautner was nominated as a Worst Actor for...you know. Will this year be different?

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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 2:26pm
RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Lautner was dually nominated as Worst Actor of 2010 for his roles in both TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE and VALENTINE'S DAY ( http://www.razzies.com/history/2010-worst-actor.asp - Ashton Kutcher ( http://razzies.com/history/2010-worst-actor-winner.asp -
For 2011, were Lautner to be dually nominated again, he would logically be listed in our Worst Actor (rather than Worst Supporting Actor) category for both this film and one of this year's most anticipated RAZZIE® titles,  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1324999/ -  


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 25 2011 at 2:33pm
Does the review quoted below mean Lautner is just unexperienced, or bad? If so, is he just bad, or so bad he's officially a bad actor in general?

Originally posted by Vits

R.T.(3-7%):"A soulless and incompetent action/thriller not even a veteran lead actor could save,let alone Taylor Lautner".

Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

For 2011, were Lautner to be dually nominated again, he would logically be listed in our Worst Actor (rather than Worst Supporting Actor) category for both this film and one of this year's most anticipated RAZZIE® titles,  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1324999/ -
I know, but my question was if it's a fact if he'll be listed as lead, or do you have to wait? Because Pattison was listed as lead too, but the year before was supporting.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZBerry: As I mentioned in a 2007 discussion on this Forum, Pattinson's role in the second TWLIGHT movie was marginalized (his character disappeared for almost half of the movie) while in ECLIPSE, Lautner and Pattinson had approximately equal screen time (as it appears they may have in BREAKING DAWN)... 





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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 5:22am

Time to start clearing your shelves Lautner, there may be a golden spray-painted piece of fruit coming your way (unless of course Captain OTT gets his hands on it first)...



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Posted By: whatsthepoint
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 11:53am
The only thing that Lautner fans (or fans of Twilight in general) have to be thankful for is that Abduction did better than a Jason Statham film with a higher production budget  -- Why the hell does Statham keep getting lead roles when his movies never make any money?!? 


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by DistinguishedFlyer

You don't have to be much of an actor to be an action star - Schwarzenegger is the classic example. But you do need a certain presence and gravity so that the audience believes you can actually take on bad guys & defeat them. Schwarzenegger had that, and his movies (or should I say their directors) quickly learned how to highlight his good qualities & draw attention away from his deficiencies.

Lautner does not have that - at least not yet, and perhaps never will. You simply don't take him seriously enough, and it's not just because of his past movies (though they certainly don't help him out).  
Exactly! It was mentioned why Jason Statham is a lead in action movies. Because #1. He has the right look. #2. He has just enough acting/charisma and fighting skills for a director to use within the context of an action movie. Lautner has neither of these qualities. He can't act his way out of a wet paper bag, and even with the ripped body that he has, he still looks like a high schooler. Statham has a tough guy appeal and he will beat the living day lights out of everyone around him, and that's why he's the current day action hero. That and getting the torch passed to him by Stallone in "The Expendables" doesn't hurt either, but then again, that's not saying much of him as a dramatic actor. 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 5:09pm
Well,Lautner does have some charisma.But I see that mostly in real life instead of his movies.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 5:17pm
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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: September 26 2011 at 8:49pm
Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2. Lautner has played the same role his entire career and will play the same role through the rest of his (probably short) career. Once his looks are gone, there is nothing to keep him in the spotlight. If he had his same level of talent and looked like Yul Brynner, do you think we would ever have heard of him? Of course not!

Originally posted by DistinguishedFlyer

You don't have to be much of an actor to be an action star - Schwarzenegger is the classic example. But you do need a certain presence and gravity so that the audience believes you can actually take on bad guys & defeat them. Schwarzenegger had that, and his movies (or should I say their directors) quickly learned how to highlight his good qualities & draw attention away from his deficiencies.

Lautner does not have that - at least not yet, and perhaps never will. You simply don't take him seriously enough, and it's not just because of his past movies (though they certainly don't help him out). 

I'm going to make a flat prediction right now - he will win the Razzie for this movie (and for the Twilight film). It'll be either one nomination for both films (which will guarantee a landslide win) or one lead & one supporting. And perhaps he'll win in both categories . . .  



Schwarzenegger also has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome very likable hero in T2. Lautner has played the same role his entire career and will play the same role through the rest of his probably short career. Once the looks are gone, there is nothing to keep him in the spotlight. If he had the same level of talent and looked like Yul Brenner do you think we would have heard of him? Of course not!


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: September 27 2011 at 5:45pm
Originally posted by Lord Naseby

Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2.
But that plays back to what a GOOD director who knows how to properly use Ar-nold can do. James Cameron saw that Arnold worked best as a big, menacing figure who barely ever speaks, and that is why it worked so well in the "Terminator" movies. Just have Arnold walking around with anger or a blank expression on his, and the few times that he does speak, make it catchy. It worked for Arnold, but it doesn't work for every single person who appears in an action movie, especially when they are a teenager with barely any talent.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 5:23am
Can anyone who's seen this answer a question: Does Lautner know in the film that he's adopted? It was bugging me because I thought he was Native American, while Maria Bello and Jason Isaacs are white.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I think I read in a review that he first learns he was adopted at the beginning of the film...  




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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 10:48am
I agree. Not even a director who had the talent of Hitchcock, Spielberg, and Welles all infused into him could make an actor like Lautner look good!  

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

Originally posted by Lord Naseby

Schwarzenegger has more talent than people give him credit for. In the right role, he was spectacular. He made an absolutely chilling villain in The Terminator and he was an awesome, very likable hero in T2.
But that plays back to what a GOOD director who knows how to properly use Ar-nold can do. James Cameron saw that Arnold worked best as a big, menacing figure who barely ever speaks, and that is why it worked so well in the "Terminator" movies. Just have Arnold walking around with anger or a blank expression on his, and the few times that he does speak, make it catchy. It worked for Arnold, but it doesn't work for every single person who appears in an action movie, especially when they are a teenager with barely any talent.


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Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: September 30 2011 at 12:23am
Lautner is not Native American. He just pretends to be in Twilight.


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 4:49pm
I know Julia Jones, who stars as the lone female werewolf in "Twilight" is actually Native American. I think everyone else in the "werewolf tribe" is actually Hispanic in real life (which, of course, is pissing off people of actual Native American descent!).

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Posted By: CaitPes81
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 9:32pm
2 "Likes"!  LOL LOL  

Originally posted by thomsonmg2000

While critics are calling Bucky Larson about as funny as a brain tumor, one critic is calling Abduction one of the funniest film of the year! Looks like Hollywood is getting the case of misplaced priorities.

http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/abduction-movie-review20110922.aspx - Link





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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 13 2011 at 6:23am
If this makes it onto the Nominating Ballots (aside from a combined Worst Actor shot for Lautner) I hope it will be considered for Worst Rip-off -- Since even the poster is a rip-off of the BOURNE films: 

 


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 04 2011 at 5:29pm
I just saw it,and gave it 4/10.

F.Y.C.:

-Actor for Taylor Lautner:Yes.While I'm gonan list the flaws in this movie,becuase it's a vehicle it all relies on him.After the first 3 movies of a certain saga I came to the conclusion that with the right director(and maybe some luck)he can be an average actor at best,and this movie is the proof.There are many details to take in account when rating a performance,but at the end what matters it's if the actor can show emotions,and he just doesn't have that talent.I do admire that he did his own stunts...but if that's the case,he should be a stunt double instead.

-Supp. Actor for Alfred Molina,Jason Isaacs(also for HARRY POTTER 7 1/2) or Michael Nyqvist;Supp. Actress for Maria Bello or Sigourney Weaver;Couple/Ensemble:No.They are aware nobody is watching the movie because of them,so they don't anything memorable(good or bad).And the leads have a decent chemistry*.

-Supp. Actress for Lily Collins:Yes.Though she wasn't as bad as in PRIEST,she was bad...and she was in PRIEST.LOL

-Director:No.While the action sequences** aren't thrilling,John Singleton*** makes them watchable.

-Screenplay;Remake/Rip-Off:Sure.As stated in my previous post,this is a rip-off even by details.Actually,the premise is also taken from a TV movie called THE FACE ON THE CARTON MILK****.However,we should give it credit for not making the same mistake most JASON BOURNE-wannabes make:the explanation at the climax isn't overly complicated,and it doesn't make the plot ridiculous.

-Picture:No.Despite being so generic,and feeling as if it was made in no more than a week,there were just worse movies this year.

*When they're making out,he doesn't take his shirt off.Instead,he takes it at one point where it doesn't make sense and they just come up with an excuse for it.
**While the trailer shows us a bunch of action sequences,most of them happen together.At the end,only a fraction of the movie shows action!
***This is the first of his movies I've watched.Whadda shame!
****My prediction came true:
Originally posted by Vits

 So he's just the boy next door, who happens to find out he's adopted. Sounds like a Lifetime TV movie.



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 22 2011 at 9:29pm
I like the compelling premise, but the execution is so mind-numbingly bad it boggles the mind. In one scene, this bad guy kidnaps the girlfriend in the train and asks her where Lautner's character is....but before she was kidnapped, she was walking to Lautner in the first place! The supporting castmembers are so talented it makes you wonder what got them in this film. One hopes that they were signed onto the film before Lautner was casted to be the lead. Overall, the script was terrible, the action scenes were executed in an amateurish way (the train sequence, in particular, is a riot), and Lautner failed to carry the film on his shoulders. I think Lautner can be a decent actor if he has a good director looking out for him. For example, I thought he was pretty decent in Breaking Dawn, but he really couldn't sell the action hero persona in Abduction. 1.5/10


Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: December 22 2011 at 10:58pm
Moviewizguy, I agree with you in some parts. The movie was a joke, no action (running around and jumping over gates is no action) and illogical plot twists (phone with secret codes randomly laying around on the desk). In the first two minutes, while Lautner was laying on the car hood, he already annoyed the heck out of me. Absolutely awful actor. And I think he is pretty much talent free. On the other hand, he's only 18 or 19.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 23 2011 at 9:37am
I thought the script was written specifically for Lautner -- Isn't that what "vehicle" means?  

Originally posted by moviewizguy

The supporting castmembers are so talented it makes you wonder what got them in this film. One hopes that they were signed onto the film before Lautner was cast to be the lead.


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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 23 2011 at 1:52pm
Maybe it wasn't meant to be a Lautner "vehicle" before shooting began. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it's possible it could have been a regular film until the studio decided to make it with Lautner.  

Originally posted by Vits

I thought the script was written specifically for Lautner -- Isn't that what "vehicle" means?  


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 23 2011 at 3:32pm
I hope not. Based on how the movie turned out, its being a vehicle for Lautner is almost a valid excuse.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 7:19pm
This is currently available OnDemand for a fee of $6.99 instead of the regular $4.99 because it's not on DVD yet. I started watching it and so far, so bad.
 
Also, I've ponied up the $35 to become a Razzie voter!!!  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Glad to have you among our Voting  RAZZIE® Members at last! 

I recently paid $7.99 to see ABDUCTION on FIOS pay-per-view myself -- and it's likely to be all over the Nominating Ballot -- possibly in as many as EIGHT CATEGORIES.

BTW: As at least one review noted (and I noticed during one of the 357 dull parts in the movie) at no point is anyone in this movie eve actually abducted -- so even the title is dumb!   




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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: December 30 2011 at 10:21pm
Well, I plan to watch all of the movies on the Razzie nominating ballot before I vote so...unfortunately, I will know what you mean soon enough...*groan*

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 31 2011 at 6:14am
After you finish watching ABDUCTION, will you review it? Or are you busy with next week? 

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

I started watching it and so far, so bad.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: December 31 2011 at 6:43am
I'll get back to reviewing regular movies next week. There's a bunch of movies that I've seen that have forums here, but are are virtually unreviewable. Specifically, Bunraku and The Undefeated. (Edit: and The Art Of Getting By.)

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 9:50pm
Time to end my Liefeldian schedule and actually review something.
 
The good:
 
Jason Issacs: Issacs plays Lautner's fake dad. His scenes with him show that Issacs truely cares for his fake son. So, of course, he ends up dead.
 
The bad:
 
Alfred Molina: Molina plays a dirty government agent after Lautner and his dim-bulb brain girlfriend. He's bland as Hell and I voted for him on my nominating ballot.
 
Sigourney Weaver: Weaver plays Lautner's therapist... or is she? Her acting is well below her usual standard and it's clear she's aware of it.
 
Michael Nyqvist: He plays the big bad of the movie. At one point, he threatens to kill Lautner's Facebook friends. Fortunately, Michael was in Mission: Impossible 4, so that must aliviate the pain.
 
The ugly:
 
Lily Collins: Collins is just bad here as Lautner's dim-bulb brained girlfriend. Her main purporse is to kiss Taylor and get captured.
 
John Singleton and Shawn Christensen: Singleton is the down-on-his-luck director who's forced to direct brain-dead star vehicles. Christensen is the brain-dead writer (and singer for a band called Stellastarr*, yes really) who crapped out this script.
 
Taylor Lautner: Last year, Robert Pattinson gave a decent performance in the decent movie Water For Elephants, which was a decent box-office hit. He may not be in a bread-line in a couple years. Lautner, on the other hand, is definitely going to be there! Kristen Stewart well probably be there too, so he won't be alone. Casting Lautner in this was a massively dumb move. Teenage girls only care about him when he's Jacob and teenage boys loath him. Sane movie-goers agree with the teenage boys.
 
Apparantly, the last shot of Taylor's real dad is an homage to Assassin's Creed. As someone who's blown hours on the Assassin's Creed series, may Altair slay Shawn Christensen where he stands. Grade: D-
 
Next-up: Bucky Larson!!!!


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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: January 21 2012 at 10:35pm
Either Ezio or Altair, whatever.


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: January 22 2012 at 12:46am
When did you get your nominating ballot?

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: January 22 2012 at 8:06am
My Nominating Ballot came at the beginning of January. I turned it in the day it was due (the day before Bucky Larson came out on DVD) -- that's the only reason Bucky wasn't marked all over my ballot. Other than that, I won't reveal my Nominating Ballot choices.

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: January 22 2012 at 12:19pm
I didn't get my RAZZIE Nominating Ballot because I didn't have the money to become a Voting Member -- plus, there's also my parents, whom I feel want to stop me because they actually think some of the contenders are good movies.

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