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Forum Name: DISCUSSION & Add'l INFO on HUMAN CENTIPEDE II
Forum Discription: In This Particular Case, Maybe That Should Be DISGUST-sion?!?!?
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5436
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Topic: Member DISCUSSION of CENTIPEDE, TOO
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Member DISCUSSION of CENTIPEDE, TOO
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 8:41am
SINCE MANY of OUR REGULAR POSTERS HAVE BEEN CLAMOURING for the CHANCE to RAZZ the BERRY CONCEPT of THIS ONE...HERE YA GO, HAVE AT IT!  

AND for THOSE WHO WANNA READ YE OLDE HEAD RAZZ-BERRY's TAKE on THIS ONE, HERE's the http://www.razzies.com/forum/offficial-razzie-take-on-human-centipede-ii_forum568.html - for THAT...  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 9:21am
I'm confused: Is this really a sequel? I read somewhere it's about a guy watching the first movie.

Anyway, I rated the first CENTIPEDE 4/10.  



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 11:17am
I believe it's meta in a Scream kind of way.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 3:03pm
It's more like New Nightmare than Scream.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 3:16pm
Well,that's another a reason to see it.

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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 5:10pm
4 comments: 
 
Remember those punks at Apple who put such long, convoluted end user license agreements on their apps, then forcibly mutilated 3 people to make the HUMANCENTiPAD? 
 
And here's another RAZZIE contender with worse reviews at Metacritic (19%) than Rotten T (25%) as of October 3. 
 
So Tom 6 tried to make a horror movie to be as disgusting as possible, and I'd say he broke the record. 
 
The idea for the two Human Centipede movies actually spawned from... get this... a moment of hatred against pedophiles. 6 and an associate agreed that child molesters and child rapists should be sewn by mouth to the ani (plural of anus) of long-haul truckers.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 5:55pm
If Six set out to make the grossest movie ever, he's gonna have to top A Serbian Film. Going by what GTAHater said about Six's opinion of pedos, I'm not sure if Six would stoop to A Serbian Film's level.
 
Also, one of the critics who liked this is Chris-Chan's half-brother, Cole Smithey. If you don't know who Chris-Chan is, DO NOT look him up! A marathon of A Serbian Film, Cannibal Holocaust, both Human Centipedes, and both I Spit On Your Graves's would be more pleasent! Take my word for it!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 6:05pm
I found A SERBIAN FILM and I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE an afternoon delight compared to the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE.I mean,the scene where it's explained about the process already made me feel like puking.I can't even go to the bathroom without thinking "I can't!The one behind me will eat it!".
Originally posted by GTAHater767

Remember those punks at Apple who put such long, convoluted end user license agreements on their apps, then forcibly mutilated 3 people to make the HUMANCENTiPAD?
That episode will actually premiere here this Sunday.
Originally posted by GTAHater767

...child molesters and child rapists...
What's the difference?


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 7:55pm
Vits, if you thought that Human Centipede was bad, you gotta see Cannibal Holocaust! It might be grosser than A Serbian Film because a bunch of animals were actually killed! As disgusting as "the scene" from A Serbian Film was, at least it wasn't a real baby!

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 9:22pm
You misquoted that. It wasn't a moment of "hatred." It was just a joke he came up with among his friends. Nothing more than harmless, hypothetical talk that people always do with their friends.  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

The idea for the two Human Centipede movies actually spawned from... get this... a moment of hatred against pedophiles. 6 and an associate agreed that child molesters and child rapists should be sewn by mouth to the ani (plural of anus) of long-haul truckers.


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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: October 03 2011 at 10:44pm

How much do you bet this movie will be rated (in the US) NC-17? Although, knowing those overly-moral, god-fearing people of the MPAA, it'll pass through just fine (like all those other torture porn movies)...



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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 6:49am
Once, at a family lunch, my dad said it should be the law that child rapists (or maybe rapists in general, I don't remember) should be castrated. Was he joking? I don't know.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 10:16am
It´s made to earn cash from the hype that is Human Centipede.... So, yeah, I would call it a sequel....

Originally posted by Vits

Well,that's another a reason to see it.


To see what? New Nightmare or HC#2...

Originally posted by Vits

I found A SERBIAN FILM and I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE an afternoon delight compared to the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE.I mean,the scene where it's explained about the process already made me feel like puking.I can't even go to the bathroom without thinking "I can't!The one behind me will eat it!".


Yet you still gave Centipede (Vits-rating:4/10) a higher rating than A Serbian Film (Vits-rating: 3/10).... Can you clarify this?


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 11:04am
This post is reserved for my rant on Dan Kois' latest RazzieWatch article, with the title: 

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/34431/razziewatch-why-human-centipede-2-wont-be-nominated-for-worst-picture - Why Human Centipede 2 Won't Be Nominated for Worst Picture   


I am still working on listing my counterarguments to his article... So I'll probably be posting it here when I am done...




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 12:18pm
I found CENTIPEDE to be more disgusting, but I found A SERBIAN FILM to be worse overall. 

Originally posted by Vheid

To see what? New Nightmare or HC#2...
 

This movie.



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 12:49pm

Actually Vits, I find it in reverse. A Serbian Film had good acting from most of the cast, while Human Centipede had only one good performance in Dieter Laser. Also, A Serbian Film actually had a story. Sure, it was disgusting as f*ck, but at least it's not centered around the director's poo fetish like Human Centipede! If you take the quality of the acting and script from A Serbian Film and put it in a non-disgusting movie, you'd have a decent Serbian film.



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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 2:51pm
They really have to change the story then, because some of the stuff that is "implied" in the film is even worse than the stuff shown. However, I admit that A Serbian Film is "technically" a better film than The Human Centipede -- but that still doesn't make it a good movie!  

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Actually Vits, I find it in reverse. A Serbian Film had good acting from most of the cast, while Human Centipede had only one good performance in Dieter Laser. Also, A Serbian Film actually had a story. Sure, it was disgusting as f*ck, but at least it's not centered around the director's poo fetish like Human Centipede! If you take the quality of the acting and script from A Serbian Film and put it in a non-disgusting movie, you'd have a decent Serbian film.
 

To clarify... Tom Six is NO Wes Craven. As far as comparing directors go, I think you really need to down on Uwe Boll's level to find a director that is his equal...


Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

It's more like New Nightmare than Scream.


The story that everyone's missing here is that of his directorial career before his international breakthrough with The Human Centipede...

He directed 3 movies before The Human Centipede, in order those were...

Gay
His directorial debut...
Plot: An "authentic" depiction of an homosexual couple in Amsterdam... I know little of the plot because I haven''t seen it...
Odd choice of casting: It stars Kelly, a transsexual who's only claim to fame is that she was the first transsexual to be on Big Brother*...
Response: There was a lot of commotion from Gay people/groups who hated the way in which they were depicted in the film (which was marketing it as an authentic depiction).... I also remember seeing it on the IMDB bottom 100 (it has since fallen off)...
Trailer: Not available

*= Tom Six directed episodes for Big Brother before making films....

Honeyz
Plot: Two teenage girls decide to stay the night locked into a department store for a school asignment(?)... It quickly all goes wrong...
Odd choice of casting: Peter Beense, a non-acting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlager - Schlager -singer in the role of a security guy... Which is a sign of things to come for his next movie: I Love Dries...
Response: The movie got some of the worst reviews for a Dutch movie ever and swept the short-lived Golden Onion Award which were the Dutch equivalent of the Razzies... http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gouden_Uien_2007 - link
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lKljcNLEhQ - I Love Dries
His low point...
Plot: A couple that can't conceive kidnap their idol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlager - Schlager -singer Dries Roelvink to use him as their spermdonor....
Odd choice of casting: The entire cast seems to exist of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlager - Schlager -singers, who have never acted before and never acted since*....
Response: This movie was doomed imediantly after the premise was anounced... No studio wanted to distribute it (can you blame them)... Which off course got a lot of media attention... It eventually went straight-to-dvd after being pre-screened in a chain of hotels...
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ci53OynCkg - LINK

*= With the exception of Peter Beense who also starred in the above mentioned Honeyz...

The Human Centipede
Revival of his carreer...
Plot: People stitched ass-to-mouth....
Odd choice of casting: They told the premise to all the actresses that auditioned and the ones that didn't run away got the part...
Response: Big internethype and lot's of torture porn-fans who seem to love it...
Trailer: Not important...


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 3:32pm
Holy crap! I swear, I thought those were parody trailers! 

Originally posted by Vheid

Tom Six is NO Wes Craven.
 

Obviously, he was referring to both movies having similar formats -- he wasn't comparing their quality. But, as I stated in the SCRE4M forum, being "meta" isn't that hard anymore.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 5:07pm
When I said "quality of the script," I meant if a different, less gross script had the same quality as A Serbian Film. Also, I agree that being "better than Human Centipede" isn't much of an accomplishment. Cats & Dogs 2 was better than Human Centipede, and I unloaded a lot of bile towards that one in my review!  

Originally posted by Vheid

They really have to change the story then because some of the stuff that is implied in the film is even worse than the stuff shown. I however admit that A Serbian Film is technically a better film than The Human Centipede, but that doesn''t make it a good movie.
 
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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 04 2011 at 8:16pm
This isn't a movie -- it's a dare. It was a dare for the writer/director to make the most tasteless movie possible, and it's a dare for audiences to try to sit through all of it!  

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 8:55am
You know, I've been thinking: For years (maybe decades) people have disliked Torture/Porn movies in general because they're not scary. But...while they were a subgenre of Horror, I think they have become an actual genre. And movies should be judged by what we expect of them, depending on their genre. We expect this movie to be disgusting. Of course, we still have to consider the film's quality in general. Some of you think the first one didn't have an actual story. That's a perfectly good reason, just as long as it's not an excuse to dislike the movie just for being gross. If that was how it should be done, it would've gotten worse reviews, just like SAW and HOSTEL. The difference is that those 2 focused a lot on the script(I'm not saying they had excellent scripts,just that they worked on them). Bottom line: If/when I see this movie, I'll try to judge the ick factor* but also concentrate on the rest.

Are the rest of you gonna do the same?

*How do I do that? If this movie is the grossest thing I've ever seen, should I see that as good...or bad?  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: When a movie exists solely to see how many audience members it can make barf or faint, I think it's fair to judge it on intention alone. Your argument that if it succeeds at such a lowly ambition, it should be counted as "good" is like saying if someone set out to replicate HUMAN CENTIPEDE's concept of sewing a string of people's faces to the assholes of others, and they succeeded, maybe they should be considered for a Nobel Peace Prize for their achievement (okay, the comparison is a little over-the-top, but I'm exaggerating to make a point)...  




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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 05 2011 at 11:16am
Again, that's why I say these kinds of movie are not art or a form of expression, but just a dare (or challenge) to see how tasteless a movie can be. And as for the people who willingly see these movies AND enjoy them (in some cases, laughing at what's happening to the victims): In my opinion, these people need to have an extended stay in a padded room and one of those "hug me" jackets.


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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 9:08am
This just in: 
 
The BBFC has now overturned its decision to ban this film and is now agreeing to release it with an '18' certificate (adults only). Why did they "un-ban" it?  


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 9:27am
So more british Razzie voters can see it?  

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 12:09pm
Because they trimmed some footage out.

Originally posted by Film Reel Redemption

This just in: 
 
The BBFC has now overturned its decision to ban this film and is now agreeing to release it with an '18' certificate (adults only). Why did they "un-ban" it?  


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 1:12pm
I think they just want to encourage British Razzie members to vote for it!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 6:13pm
THis might not have an R.T. consensus any time soon, because of it's limited release. But it should stay around 20%(the first one got 50%!).  

Peter Travers gave this a 0: "The film is in black-and-white so the gore doesn't spray quite as colorfully. But you'll still puke up a storm!"


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 06 2011 at 7:46pm
The (un)Official Critic of the Razzies has spoken: This "movie" is a stinker, and an extreme exercise in bad taste.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 6:38am
I've been thinking...again. Torture Porn is still a sub-genre of Horror. While SAW and HOSTEL focused more on gore, they still managed to be scary and/or suspenseful at times. But the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE did that maybe 3 times. Maybe being the grossest movie ever made isn't a good thing after all.

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Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 6:46am
Oh, I heard of him. So Cole Smitty thinks Toy Story 3 is junk, but a film made JUST to be disgusting is good? I thought Cole was smarter than that.  

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Also, one of the critics who liked this is Chris-Chan's half-brother, Cole Smithey. If you don't know who Chris-Chan is, DO NOT look him up!


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Posted By: SuperTeenTopia
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 7:02am
Why spend time "thinking" about torture porn. It's NOT art, it's NOT expression. It's 100% shock value, and nothing more. There is no honor or glory in being the grossest movie ever just for the sake of being the grossest movie ever.   

Originally posted by Vits

 I've been thinking...again.Torture Porn is still a sub-genre of Horror.While SAW and HOSTEL focused more on the gore,they still tried to be scary and/or suspenseful at times.But the first HUMAN CENTIPEDE did it maybe 3 times.Maybe being the grossest movie ever isn't a good thing after all.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 07 2011 at 8:28pm
Time to review the first Human Centipede.
 
The good:
 
Dieter Laser: Laser is good as the mentally unbalanced dokter. Also, as I mentioned in my Plan 9 review, he has an awesome name! That's like a Bond villain name.
 
Some unintentional humor: There are parts of this that are humorous. For starters, the first thing that Heiter makes the centipede do is... fetch the paper. They should have called it The Human Centipuppy!
 
The bad:
 
Medical accuracy: As some of you might recall, the poster for this stated that it was "100% Medically Accurate." That's a load of sh*t right there.
 
Akihiro Kitamura: Kitamura plays the first segment of the centipede. His acting is stiff, but he has one great line that prevents him from being in the ugly: "The Japanese possess unbelievable strength when backed into a corner!"
 
The plot hole: People who've seen this know what I'm talking about. Heiter brings the centipede up to the house and back down to the basement. The problem is that his staircase is spiral: how the f*ck does that work? Towards the end, when Heiter is conversing with police officers, the centipede tries to escape but has trouble with the staircase. If they got up the staircase fine with Heiter, why don't they just do what he was telling them to do?
 
The ugly:
 
Ashlynn Yennie: Yennie's acting is truely terrible. She plays the ass end of the centipede. Considering how annoying she was during the non-centipede scenes, you'll be glad that her mouth is shut!
 
Tom Six: Six came up with a good hook for the movie, but forgot to add a story to it! Once you get over the fact that there's three people stitched ass to mouth, you realize that there isn't a story. Seriosuly, can anyone tell me what the plot was? No, because there isn;t one!
 
Ashley C. Williams: Williams is easily one of the worst actresses of all time. Her performance is just terrible! Especially annoying is that she's the only one left alive at the end of the movie.
 
This is one of the most boring films ever. Grade: D
 
Next-up: I don't know. I don't have any plans for a review before the 13th, but I'll fit a movie in before that.
 
Also, here's something funny I came across.
 


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 10:57am
Just like with the first one,Roger Ebert didn't give this a rating:"The film is reprehensible,dismaying,ugly,artless and an affront to any notion,however remote,of human decency".
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Some unintentional humor: There are parts of this that are humorous. For starters, the first thing that Heiter makes the centipede do is... fetch the paper. They should have called it The Human Centipuppy!
Im pretty sure that was meant to be comic relief.Also,at the beginning,he says he first tried the experiment with dogs.
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

As some of you might recall, the poster for this stated that it was "100% Medically Accurate." That's a load of sh*t right there.
 
Heiter brings the centipede up to the house and back down to the basement. The problem is that his staircase is spiral: how the f*ck does that work?
Both answers can be found http://here -
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Next-up: I don't know. I don't have any plans for a review before the 13th, but I'll fit a movie in before that.
What?I thought you had already chosen like 10 movies.


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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 11:22am
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Medical accuracy: As some of you might recall, the poster for this stated that it was "100% Medically Accurate." That's a load of sh*t right there.

And what makes you say it isn't?
 
The plot hole: People who've seen this know what I'm talking about. Heiter brings the centipede up to the house and back down to the basement. The problem is that his staircase is spiral: how the f*ck does that work? Towards the end, when Heiter is conversing with police officers, the centipede tries to escape but has trouble with the staircase. If they got up the staircase fine with Heiter, why don't they just do what he was telling them to do?

You make a great point, but in the greater scheme of things, it's a small flaw. It's like with every horror film how cell phones won't work. If they did work, the movie would end in 10 minutes.
 
Ashlynn Yennie: Yennie's acting is truely terrible. She plays the ass end of the centipede. Considering how annoying she was during the non-centipede scenes, you'll be glad that her mouth is shut!

As far as horror movies go, the genre doesn't really need Oscar caliber performances. Sure, I will admit the performances of the two girls pre-centipede were...off and amateurish. HOWEVER, after they are in the centipede, you have to admit their performances dramatically improved. Their expression of fear is totally believable and made me feel very bad in the situation they're in.
 
Tom Six: Six came up with a good hook for the movie, but forgot to add a story to it! Once you get over the fact that there's three people stitched ass to mouth, you realize that there isn't a story. Seriosuly, can anyone tell me what the plot was? No, because there isn;t one!

The story was that the three people were trying to find a way to escape. It's not that hard to figure out, especially in the third act where things get intense as they try to find a way out.

This is one of the most boring films ever. Grade: D

I find that grade a bit too low but you're free to do so. I find it to be a good horror film because it's actually genuinely good. Walking in the movie, I was expecting it to be disgusting, exploitative, etc. However, color me surprised when I found the directing to be more than competent, the cinematography to be gorgeous (unlike the flash cuts, quick editing you usually find in the Saw series), the performances to be believable, and the film to be suspenseful and subtle. Additionally, every chance Six could have shown something disgusting, he didn't.


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 12:36pm
To Vits, that link is broken. As for the schedule, I know what I'm reviewing, I just don't know when I'm going to. I was thinking of reviewing Darkness Falls (the evil tooth fairy movie) next. Mainly because of it's "interesting" history.
 
To MWG, 1.) The centipede would have died a lot quicker than they should have. 2.) As someone who's signal goes out all the time mid-conversation, I've never had a problem with the cell-phone issue. 3.) To me, the girls' performances before the were in the centipede were just awful. While Yennie's performance, as you mentioned, picked-up during the centipede section, Williams just bombed. The scene where the sh*t enters her mouth was gross, but her facial expressions made it hard to take seriously. 4.) Saying it doesn't have a story was kinda over-the-top on my part, but the plot didn't pick-up until the end. 5.) I was actually surprised about how not over-the-top the grossness was. The only scene that made me really grossed out was the quick shot of the "pink sock."


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 12:47pm
Here's the link again: 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467304/faq

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

As some of you might recall, the poster for this stated that it was "100% Medically Accurate." That's a load of sh*t right there.
And what makes you say it isn't?

No,this is part of the premise. I think what he meant was that the plot didn't go anywhere until the last part. Before that, it was more of a series of vignettes than a story.

Originally posted by moviewizguy

The story was that the three people were trying to find a way to escape.
 

I actually expected them show the surgery! 

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Additionally, every chance Six could have shown something disgusting, he didn't.



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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 2:01pm
It's funny you mentioned that scene because I never saw it in the film. It turns out that I actually saw an "edited version" of the film with that scene cut out.  

Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

The scene where the sh*t enters her mouth was gross, but her facial expressions made it hard to take seriously.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 08 2011 at 5:14pm
Reading th3 defense of the plot hole linked below reminds me of Roger Ebert's students trying to explain the end of Being There. For those unaware, at the end of Being There, the slow-seeming Chance The Gardener walks into a lake and walks on the surface of the water. Ebert's students theorized about a sand-barge or a submerged deck, but Ebert rejected it because neither was shown in the film. We were never shown wheels on the cage or a door to the garden.
 
As for medical accuracy, the FAQ mentions several ways that the film isn't accurate, proving my original point about the "100% Medically Accurate" being wrong.
 
I've decided that Darkness Falls will be the next review. I'll have a review of it tomorrow after I get back from Real Steel.  

Originally posted by Vits

 Here's the link again:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467304/faq


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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:14pm
I saw the original one on a dare.  

I wound up filling my RAZZIE nominating ballot with lots of nominations for the original film, especially for "director" TOM SICKS! 

However, this movie sounds so bad that it doesn't deserve any attention by RAZZIE voters. It's too AWFUL to even be considered "RAZZIE worthy"!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 09 2011 at 4:28pm
Too AWFUL to even be considered RAZZIE worthy? 
There's no such thing, my friend!  LOL  

  



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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 09 2011 at 5:18pm
I seem to recall HeadRAZZBerry mentioning once that Kickin' It Old Skool was so bad that it wouldn't be considered for the 2007 RAZZIES, despite it getting a forum here. He said something similar about Beer For My Horses in August 2008.
 
Due to the half-and-half approval rating at Rotten T, the limited release, and because it was based overseas, I was rather satisfied that The Human Centipede: First Sequence wasn't nominated for any of the 2010 RAZZIES.
 
I listed Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence for 1 nomination for Worst Director for Tom 6. I was on the fence because this film is considered British, but the deciding factor was that this is the same year that HUMANCENTiPAD was made.
 
Tom 6 said he wanted to make the Human Centipede franchise a trilogy. He then said that Human Centipede 3: Final Sequence would be the last one (that's the good news), but he hoped to make it disgusting enough to make Full Sequence look like a Disney film (that's the bad news).


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: October 09 2011 at 11:55pm
If this one gets Razzie noms I will not see it. I plan to see most, if not all, of the Razzie nominated films to get a good idea of who I should be voting for. But if this one gets nods, I will not watch it. It just flat out crosses my line. I read they synopsis of the film and from what it looks like, even the creators of Saw would look at it and say "dude...WTF? We didn't even go this far this is disgusting. What the heck is wrong with you!?" Plus, who the heck agrees to be in these kinds of films!? Who is sick enough to go "this could be entertaining" because it certainly isn't art. I guarantee the 3rd one will be even more depraved and horrid.


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 12:01am
Oh, and the director of the films said #3 will make #2 look like a Disney film. What on Earth is wrong with him!?!?! He can't call this art. No one is going to see the 2nd one, they are too disgusted with this moron. I can't blame them. Even Saw 7 had more dignity than this. 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 11:12am
The "HUMAN CENTIPAD" episode of SOUTH PARK aired last night. It was good. I was glad they didn't make fun of Steve Jobs.


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 12:26pm
South Park couldn't make fun of Steve Jobs because he wasn't dead yet. The "Human Centipad" episode came out months and months ago -- it was their season premier. 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 12:45pm
I know. I meant they could have because he was still alive. They could still do it, but I'm sure they'll do it with more respect. Like when Steve Irwin got kicked out of a party. They didn't make fun of him directly.

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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 12:47pm
OK, gotcha! Now that you mention stuff like this, I'm surprised they didn't have a field day with Bin Ladin's death. I guess it's because they'd made fun of him too much already? 

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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 10 2011 at 8:56pm
Trust me, there ARE pictures that are so utterly awful that the RAZZIES shouldn't touch them. even with the proverbial 50 foot pole. Among them: Shakes The Clown, Andy Warhol's Frankenstein, Deep Throat Part 2, Flesh Gordon and The Cosmic Cheerleaders, It's Pat, Liquid Sky and The Kid and I!




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 7:41am
Originally posted by Lord Naseby

I'm surprised they didn't have a field day with Bin Ladin's death. I guess it's because they'd made fun of him too much already?

Actually,in the episode IT'S A JERSEY THING,he died.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 9:41am
It's A Jersey Thing aired before Bin Laden died.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 10:36am
My point is that he died in the SOUTH PARK universe before he died in real life,so he couldn't die in the series after he died in real life.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 11:23am
Spielberg and Lucas were killed in Free Hat, yet appeared in The China Probrem and 200. Death dosen't mean much in South Park.
 
And speaking of South Park, I've got a reheated turd in a microwave on my counter, which will be review when I'm done with They.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 11:40am
Maybe some characters also have KENNY's curse.


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 11:50am
I honestly think that Cartmen has Kenny's curse. His head exploded in Medicinal Fried Chicken and he seems to be the only one that remembers Kenny's death.

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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: October 11 2011 at 1:01pm
Bin Laden has been killed twice. Once in Its a Jersey Thing and once in Osama Bin Laden has Farty Pants. I know that they briefly soppfed it in one episode after he died but it wasn't too prominent. 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 25 2011 at 9:37am
This movie was included here:
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Any thoughts?


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: November 29 2011 at 8:35pm
Time to review this.
 
The good:
 
The gross stuff: That may seem like an odd thing to put in the good, but there's a good reason for it. The first half of the film is mind-blowingly BORING! Like The Brown Bunny boring!!!* When gross stuff happens, it's somewhat of a relief because something is happening!
 
The bad:
 
The really gross stuff: While the gross stuff was mildly relieving, the really gross stuff makes it almost as unwatchable as the first half! To be specific, the scene where he feeds the segments of the centipede laxatives so that his poop-eating scene would go better and one scene so bad, that I'm bringing back the the super ugly section from The NeverEnding Story III review.
 
Laurence R. Harvey: Harvey plays the lead character Martin in this and man, he's got nothing on Dieter Laser. Laser was fun to watch. This guy's a bore and the fact that the film was shot in B&W make it worse.**

Doug Hutchens: Hutchens plays Martin's psychologist Dr. Sebong. His acting is very bad, but his beard is awesome!
 
The ugly:
 
Vivien Bridson: Bridson plays Martin's annoying mother. She can't act to save her life. There's one awesome scene with her where she destroys his Human Centipede scrapbook. Then he smashes her skull open for this.
 
The ending: Normally, I'd whiteout the spoilers, but since everyone who wants to see this has seen this already, I decided screw it. It turns out that the whole movie happened in Martin's head. I HATE these types of endings! The're cop-outs and just exist to piss-off the audience! One bright side exists though: the really terrible scene, which will be whited-out because it's so gross to leave out in the open, can be ignored!
 
Tom Six: Apparantly, making a movie where a crazy German guy stitches three people ass-to-mouth gave Six a massive ego. Every frame in this comes off as smug, like he thinks he's better than us. His head is so far up his ass, it's between his shoulders again!
 
The super ugly:
 
The dead baby: One of the people that Martin kidnaps is a pregnant woman who escapes towards the end. While she's sitting in a car about to escape the baby shoots out. When she accelerates the car, she steps on the baby's head, killing it. That's just despicable. In fact, it might even worse than the dead baby in A Serbian Film!!! At least there was a (very dumb) reason for the dead baby scene to happen in that. It's used for shock value here!
 
I SERIOUSLY considered pulling out a Rotten Asshole for this, but I decided it wasn't terrible enough. Grade: F
 
Next-up: Conan The Barbarian 2011
 
*Fun fact: The Brown Bunny is the only movie that I've been unable to finish.
**I don't mind B&W movies, it's just that the way Tom Six uses it makes the movie unwatchable.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 30 2011 at 6:08am
But the ending is ambiguous. Or do you really think it was all a daydream?
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

The Brown Bunny is the only movie that I've been unable to finish.
While it is one of the worst I've seen, the ending is why it's not in my Bottom 5. You should watch it.


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Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: December 05 2011 at 1:48am
In light of this movie i thought that this would be appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicMealTime?blend=6&ob=5#p/u/1/eAjhG09X9YA - http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicMealTime?blend=6&ob=5#p/u/1/eAjhG09X9YA

On a side note i really want to razz this film but since i refuse to see it i wont vote for it (I barely made it through Antichrist and from what i heard this makes it look like a pixar film). You're a braver man than I SchumacherH8ter



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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 1:50am
HeadRAZZ, Is it possible to award Mr. Six and his Centipede-movies, a one time only, special DISGRACE TO HUMANITY AWARD (a spoof of the Oscars Humanitarian Award)? Because I honestly believe he deserves one, especially after anouncing his plans for a third Centipede film)...


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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 2:51am
You know, as much as we here bash Michael Bay for being an abysmal director, he probably isn't the worst person one could meet (I repeat: probably). But Mr. Six has shown with his Human Centipede movies that he is both a horrid director and a horrid human being, thus I whole-heartedly support the idea of giving him a Disgrace to Humanity award.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 7:59am
Then shouldn't we wait until THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE 3?

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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 12:27pm
We could have him "win" it twice in a row.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 12:53pm
Isn't the Humanitarian Oscar for an entire body of work?

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Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 1:15pm
Given the fact that Mr Six's entire body of work consists of films taking a human, and connecting him/her to another human, anus to mouth, then connecting another human to them, anus to mouth (rinse and repeat for each sequel), I'd say he more than deserves the dis-honor!  

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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 2:41pm
With the Human centipede films, Mr. Six done enough to earn a special Disgrace to Humanity award! 

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 2:55pm
Exactly. But why not wait until he's made all the HUMAN CENTIPEDE movies he says he's going to make?

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 3:28pm
Wow... this is getting more support than i expected... I am definitely liking this...

Originally posted by Vits

Exactly. But why not wait until he's made all the HUMAN CENTIPEDE movies he says he's going to make?


Why wait?
And what if he decides after the 3rd film that he wants to make a fourth... and after the fourth decides to make a fifth... You get the point....
We don't know how many movies he's still going to make...


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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 3:56pm
He planned three from the start. First, Full, and Final Sequence. I mean, you can even tell by their titles that it was a planned trilogy.

Originally posted by Vheid


Why wait?
And what if he decides after the 3rd film that he wants to make a fourth... and after the fourth decides to make a fifth... You get the point....
We don't know how many movies he's still going to make...


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 13 2011 at 5:05pm
And it couldn't be the case where the "final chapter" gets another sequel, because it's not like these movies have been blockbusters.

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Posted By: Mayhem5185
Date Posted: December 16 2011 at 3:02am
The thing we also have to consider is that even though a third film is in production, there's no telling if it will end up being a straight-to-DVD movie, thus making the series ineligible for consideration for future awards. Hell, this movie probably would've gone straight-to-DVD if so many people weren't so curious about seeing people connected... anus to mouth, the first time around! LOL  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: What do you mean "the first time"?  Isn't anus-to-mouth how all of this year's GOP debates have all been conducted??  




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Posted By: Lord Naseby
Date Posted: December 16 2011 at 2:02pm
I think this second one tanked at the box office. The third one, if released, definitely will. 

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 10:32am
Thing is that when you see the movie (please don't--- it's really vomit-inducing)... You'll see that he REALLY himself convinced that he made a great movie... It's filled with scenes that point to what a "masterpiece" the first Human Centipede actually was.... He really has an enormous ego and deserves a reality-check... and I hope we can give it to him in the form of this Disgrace to Humanity-Razzie (or any Razzie-win or nom for that matter)....

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 11:07am
Also, the characters used to form the centipede are completely aware of the 1st movie.
Originally posted by Vheid

Thing is that when you see the movie (please don't--- it's really vomit-inducing)... You'll see that he REALLY himself convinced that he made a great movie... It's filled with scenes that point to what a "masterpiece" the first Human Centipede actually was....
Not really. The only character who like the movie is... well, the last person anyone would want as a fan.


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 11:38am
Examples.... Tom Six constantly replays scenes from the HC#1 in HC#2.... There is a monologue in the truck with HC#1-actress Aslynn Yennie, in which she's stating how great the first movie was... Then there is the fake attempt to be artsy with his slow moving scenes and B&W-photography.... And the fact that the entire premise is a big middlefinger to the people who liked the first one and thinking they won''t understand this...

I haven't seen a filmmaker with such a egocentric message since M. Night made Lady In The Water... 


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: ...and M. Night "won" two RAZZIES® all to himself for his ego-aggrandizing work on LADY...  


Originally posted by Vits

Originally posted by Vheid

Thing is that when you see the movie (please don't--- it's really vomit-inducing)... You'll see that he REALLY himself convinced that he made a great movie... It's filled with scenes that point to what a "masterpiece" the first Human Centipede actually was....
Not really. The only character who like  the movie is... well, the last person anyone would want as a fan.
 





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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 11:42am
Agree, except that I think the scene with Yennie was meant to be a parody.

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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 11:57am
Why can't it be both? I mean letting Ashlynn Yennie mock herself while at the same time praising the first film.... I noticed in that scene that it was written in such a way that Yennie is made fun of, but that HC#1 (and it's director) are left unscathed... Why do you think that is?  

Originally posted by Vits

Agree, except that I think the scene with Yennie was meant to be a parody.


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 19 2011 at 12:02pm
Clap

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: February 14 2012 at 6:35am
Originally posted by Vits

THis might not have an R.T. consensus any time soon, because of it's limited release. But it should stay around 20%(the first one got 50%!).

Actually, it'll stay around 30%: "It attempts to weave in social commentary, but as the movie wears on, it loses its ability to repulse and shock and ends up obnoxious and annoying".


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Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: March 03 2012 at 7:49am
Entertainment Weekly revealed some stuff about the upcoming Centipede 3.... http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/03/02/human-centipede-3/ - link

Human Centipede franchise stars Dieter Laser and Laurence R. Harvey will both play lead roles in Human Centipede Part 3 (Final Sequence). The controversial horror series’ writer-director Tom Six has also cast himself in a supporting part for the concluding entry in the Human Centipede trilogy.


and

According to Ilona Six, principal photography on Human Centipede 3 will take place this May and June in the southern states of the U.S. The producer also confirmed that the American finale of the series is set for a 2013 release and will be “100 percent politically incorrect.”


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 03 2012 at 11:57am
Based on that, I think the movie will be about MARTIN (this one must have been a dream) going to the US to stalk Tom Six and Dieter Laser (playing themselves), because inside the universe of this movie, the first movie was popular, so in the third one it'll look like it was a big hit, which is why the director and actors are "making it" in Hollywood. Wow. Before I thought that whether Six had a big ego or not could've been debatable. Not anymore.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: March 04 2012 at 8:30pm
The fact that the second one's protagonist is obsessed with the first one didn't tip you off that his ego is at Meyerian levels?

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: March 05 2012 at 5:33am
The fact that there was only one person obsessed with it, and that he was a psycho, wasn't so obvious.

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: March 14 2012 at 12:35pm
Apparantly, the third one may involve a 500 person centipede!!!!!!!!!! The account isn't verified, but I wouldn't put it past Six to do that. Link: http://news.moviefone.com/2012/03/14/human-centipede-3-500-person-centipede_n_1344570.html - http://news.moviefone.com/2012/03/14/human-centipede-3-500-person-centipede_n_1344570.html

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