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MEMBER DISCUSSION of "You Sunk My BATTLESHIP!"

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Topic: MEMBER DISCUSSION of "You Sunk My BATTLESHIP!"
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: MEMBER DISCUSSION of "You Sunk My BATTLESHIP!"
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:51am
WHEN WE SAW the R.T. NUMBERS on THIS FILM ( http://www.razzies.com/forum/rt-reviews-on-battleship_topic5867.html - ) WE HADDA WONDER: DID HASBRO PULL a "PIA ZADORA/GOLDEN GLOBES" MOVE to GET THEM??  

HERE's WHERE to OFFER YOUR THEORIES on HOW a MOVIE BASED on a BOARD GAME -- and STARRING BOTH the LUMMOX from JOHN CARTER and POP DIVA RIHANNA in HER "DRAMATIC DEBUT" -- COULD GET ANYWHERE NEAR a 50% POSITIVE NUMBER at R.T.  

MEANWHILE, HERE's the http://www.razzies.com/forum/headrazzberrys-foto-funny-on-battleship_topic5868.html - to CHECK OUT Ye Olde Head RAZZberry's FOTO FUNNY on http://www.razzies.com/forum/member-discussion-addl-info-on-battleship_forum628.html - ... 




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 12:27pm
Wow! A Forum already?!  

This movie was directed by Peter Berg, a director whose quality depends on the material he's given.  

It stars Taylor Kitsch (from JOHN CARTERAlexander Skarsgard (from Vits Award nominee for Best TV Series TRUE BLOOD and last year's STRAW DOGS remake, on which I remember requests for a Forum), Razzie nominee for Worst Couple Brooklyn Decker, 4-time Vits Award nominee (including Best Singer) Rihanna in her theatrical film debut (she played herself in BRING IT ON 3) and Vits Award nominee for Best Movie Performance (for UNKNOWN) Liam Neeson (also from WRATH OF THE TITANS). I sense that at least half of these people could be in consideration.
Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

HERE's WHERE to OFFER YOUR THEORIES on HOW a MOVIE BASED on a BOARD GAME -- and STARRING BOTH the LUMMOX from JOHN CARTER and POP DIVA RIHANNA in HER "DRAMATIC DEBUT" -- COULD GET ANYWHERE NEAR a 50% POSITIVE NUMBER at R.T.
Come on, that's not fair. You haven't seen it. Why shouldn't it deserve 50%? PIRANHA 3D got about 80%, because critics said "It was everything I expected". Also, PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE* got 65% because critics said "It's the best bad movie ever".

And, in your take** you said critics were too kind on THE 3 STOOGES. Have you even seen that movie?

*I saw it yesterday, and my opinion was the same as I had for GLEN OR GLENDA.
** Also, I thought you said your takes would only be Foto Funnies until the award ceremony was over.


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Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 2:21pm
Like I said before elsewhere, even a lot of the positive reviews for this admit that it is stupid.

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 3:59pm
Had to move this over from Dun-Ida's member-started discussion over to here. Here is what I thought should be in consideration from this film: 
 
Worst Screenplay / Jon & Erich Hoeber 
Worst Prequel, Sequel, Remake or Rip-Off / Rip-off of TRANSFORMERS 
Worst Director / Peter Berg 
Worst Actor / Taylor Kitsch (Also for JOHN CARTER -- if it gets nominated)
 
And last but not least...
 
Worst Picture
 
NOTE: These nominations may change, so I'll let you know if that happens. 
 
SchumacherH8ter: About Liam Neeson's role in this, I thought it was rather small, decent and thankless. Although, we can still consider nominating him for Wrath of the Worthingtitans.
 
If you have any questions, suggestions or complaints about my nomination suggestions, please let me know...  




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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 5:00pm

I think some strange unexplained phenomenon happened, and a revelation came to the critics to make their reviews more generous. Ever since April Fool's Day, critics have given merely "below average" reviews to movies we thought would crash and burn. First American Reunion, then The Three Stooges, now this! My first instinct is that Hollywood got word that more people cared about reviews than ever before, and they bought out half the critics for windfalls to write positive reviews and make bad films get mixed reviews.

Meanwhile, back in December 2000, Dungeons and Dragons got terrible reviews, and was selected as a likely RAZZIE contender. I put it at #22 on the Bottom 40 Films of 2000. So... Correction: This is at least the second board game to film adaptation. Adam Sandler's Candy Land will be the 3rd.


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Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: May 09 2012 at 5:44pm
You forgot about Clue...  

Originally posted by GTAHater767

I think some strange unexplained phenomenon happened, and a revelation came to the critics to make their reviews more generous. Ever since April Fool's Day, critics have given merely "below average" reviews to movies we thought would crash and burn. First American Reunion, then The Three Stooges, now this! My first instinct is that Hollywood got word that more people cared about reviews than ever before, and they bought out half the critics for windfalls to write positive reviews and make bad films get mixed reviews.

Meanwhile, back in December 2000, Dungeons and Dragons got terrible reviews, and was selected as a likely RAZZIE contender. I put it at #22 on the Bottom 40 Films of 2000. So... Correction: This is at least the second board game to film adaptation. Adam Sandler's Candy Land will be the 3rd.



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Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.

Worst Supporting Actor: Brendan Fraser/Gimme Shelter and The Nut Job




Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: May 11 2012 at 7:23am
If they end up defeating the aliens by shooting giant red pegs at them, I'd say this film should win an Oscar Big smile

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: May 12 2012 at 11:34pm
Saturnwatcher: I see what you did there. Besides, I saw this a whole month in advance, way before any of you guys, so I already know what happens!  




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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 7:03pm
I knew there would be a Razzie discussion on Battlesh*t. Yeah, it's just another Transformers movie minus the Transformers name, and minus Michael Bay.

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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 7:57pm
You guys got to take a look at this, here's some parody posters for this with other board games. http://screencrush.com/battleship-posters/ - http://screencrush.com/battleship-posters/

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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 5:46am
Put Hungry Hungry Hippos on the list and then the parody will be complete!

Originally posted by jesse685

You guys got to take a look at this, here's some parody posters for this with other board games. http://screencrush.com/battleship-posters/ - http://screencrush.com/battleship-posters/



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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 7:57am
The only thing about this that might be good is the eventual/inevitable Robot Chicken parody.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 7:29am
You also gotta take a look at http://www.slackercinema.com/2012/05/battleship-vs-american-battleship-this.html - this .

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 7:30am
http://rogerebert.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120516/REVIEWS/120519990 - Roger Ebert gave it 2.5/4.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 7:40am
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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 7:42am
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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 8:42am
A quote from Roger Ebert's review worth pointing out: "But the nicest touch is that 'Battleship' has an honest-to-God third act, instead of just settling for nonstop fireballs and explosions, as Bay likes to do. I don't want to spoil it for you. Let's say the Greatest Generation still has the right stuff and leave it at that."


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 10:27am
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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 4:33pm
Spill.com review here:
http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/battleship-audio-review


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Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:45am
I guess the bottomline from where I sit is that any film about an alien invasion of Earth is pretty preposterous. Assuming that you have the technology to even get here from some other star system, it is a given that your technological level will have provided weapons that will make the "war" about 5 minutes in duration. The few dozen of us that are alive in the wake will find ourselves living on reservations located in bleak parts of the planet and doing service jobs in some alien casino.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:51am
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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:51am
After being released in other countries, there was already an R.T. concensus. It was 45-50%. Now that it's being released in the U.S., it's down to around 35%: "The film may offer energetic escapism for less demanding filmgoers, but it's too loud, poorly written, and formulaic to justify its expense... and a lot less fun than its source material".

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Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 5:50pm
If you ask me, that's the flaw with monoplanetary alien invasion. I favor polyplanetary alien science fiction, where multiple alien planets are involved. If I ever make a game involving aliens, I'll make it poly-planetary. That way various planets can have different environments, different levels on the primitive/advanced spectrum, and can even differ between warlike versus peaceful.
 
On topic, I was wondering when the days of well-deserved RAZZIE forums would be back. On April 6, nothing was worth considering. On April 13, The Three Stooges got surprisingly mild reviews, and Lockout even had a 48% on Metacritic! Then Darling Companion got a forum but it took me to add one for The Lucky One. Then The Raven became the only wide release in April that got an official forum it deserved. Then May 4 and May 11 passed by with nothing to add RAZZberry jelly to. Finally we're back in business!
 
...only flaw is that we're still subsisting on Foto Funnies. Trying not to be "berry rude," but I am wondering why we haven't returned to full-fledged "HeadRAZZberry's Take" on all Forums??  
 
(This is my 987th post)  

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I guess the bottomline from where I sit is that any film about an alien invasion of Earth is pretty preposterous. Assuming that you have the technology to even get here from some other star system, it is a given that your technological level will have provided weapons that will make the "war" about 5 minutes in duration. The few dozen of us that are alive in the wake will find ourselves living on reservations located in bleak parts of the planet and doing service jobs in some alien casino.



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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 9:01pm
Let's not forget that Adam Sandler is working on the movie version of Candyland... Dead

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Posted By: Film Reel Redemption
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:33pm
There is only one word that can sum this movie up and it is this (it was also used in Empire Magazie's verdict of the film) - MISS!

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 8:01am
I'm about to leave to go see this. Wish me luck.

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:17am
Good luck!

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:36am
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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 10:50am
http://movieswithmitch.squarespace.com/lists/2012/5/19/10-childhood-boardgames-ripe-for-movie-adaptation.html -


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 12:07pm
Well I'm still alive. It's one of the worst movies in recent memory and the only reason it's not the worst of the year is because there's no message at the end telling me to go to a promotional website.

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Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 11:50pm
No aliens would want to visit Earth. They've been scared off by the 700 Club!




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Posted By: Dun-Ida
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 6:12am
Battleship could have been a good movie. Unfortunately poor direction and screenplay spoiled it. This should get nominations for Worst Screenplay (Erich Hoeber and Jon Hoeber) and Worst Director (Peter Berg). 

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 10:09am
Here's an interesting thing about The 700 Club: apparently, ABC Family is forced by contract to air it. So it's not their fault (nor is Pat Robertson). As revenge, they put a bunch of disclaimers before it, making it clear that they don't want to air it.  

Originally posted by JoeBacon

No aliens would want to visit Earth. They've been scared off by the 700 Club!


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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 2:52pm
http://www.examiner.com/article/movie-review-battleship -


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 21 2012 at 10:47am
http://movieswithmitch.squarespace.com/reviews/2012/5/21/battleship-review.html -


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 6:41pm
This article, from two years ago, is very timely: http://www.vulture.com/2010/11/ron_meyer_may_be_out_at_univer.html%20 - LINK ...

Well, time to rip into that other Taylor Kitsch bomb...  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: May 24 2012 at 3:10pm
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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 26 2012 at 8:28pm
Who thought that this was a good idea? I'm glad that he or she is probably gonna get fired for this. I'm serious, we can't let them think that adapting board games is a good idea. And, by God, we did. It came in fourth place yesterday with $3 mil. As I mentioned in the One For The Money review, I'm skipping the good section.
 
Liam Neeson is absolutely wasted here. He must have been literally "wasted" to have agreed to appear in this! The special effects are suprisingly sub-par considering its budget. It's not Underworld: Awakening bad, but still. Rihanna doesn't embaress herself as much as I thought she would, but she still sucks to high heaven. After being the only thing in Just Go With It that I didn't want to beat severely, Brooklyn Decker plays a very anoying character.
 
After this and John Carter, I have to wonder: what the f*ck did Taylor Kitsch do to his agent to piss him off enough to book him into these two movies? His acting is even worse than it was in John Carter. Alexander Skarsgard is slightly better as his on-screen brother, but not good enough to elevate him out of consideration. The story is just stupid. It's not as bad as One For The Money's script, but that's not saying much. Peter Berg is a dissapointment. He should have known better than to stoop to Michael Bay's level. Granted it's slightly better than Trannies 2, but still.
 
Speaking of Transformers, that franchise's success is the only reason this exists. Much like how The Vow is a cash-in on Nicholas Sparks, this only exists because the Transformers series prints money. Only difference is that Transformers was based on the cartoon, while this was based on...nothing. 

Grade: F

Next-up: A really bad Joel Schumacher movie!! (But not that one!!! You all know what I mean by that.)


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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: May 26 2012 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Next-up: A really bad Joel Schumacher movie!! (But not that one!!! You all know what I mean by that.)
Let me guess... The Number 23?


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Posted By: jesse685
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 3:57am
SchumacherH8ter: You didn't mention him in the review, but what did you think of Tadanobu Asano in this?

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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 8:09am
To Grounder: It's not that one. The movie's better than The Number 23 by a decent distance.
 
To jesse: Tadanobu was bad, but not bad enough to get a mention. Although, the scene where he's "plays" battleship was hilarious!


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Posted By: Grounder the Critic
Date Posted: May 27 2012 at 10:57am
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

To Grounder: It's not that one. The movie's better than The Number 23 by a decent distance.
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Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: June 01 2012 at 12:46pm
RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Here's a  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2012/05/how-did-battleship-escape-the-john-carter-flop-furor-.html -  to read a berry interesting article in The L.A. Times (the movie industry's Local Paper of Record) asking why JOHN CARTER got an avalanche of bad publicity when it bombed, while BATTLESHIP (whose b.o. and budget numbers are berry similar -- and which also, coincidentally, starsTaylor Kitsch) got off all but scott free...  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 15 2012 at 4:15pm
I just saw it. For your consideration:
-Worst Actor for Taylor Kitsch (also for JOHN CARTER).
-Worst Supp. Actor for Liam Neeson (also for WRATH OF THE TITANS).
-Worst Supp. Actor for Gregory D. Gadson.
-Worst New Star for Gregory D. Gadson.
-Worst Director.
-Worst Screenplay.
-Worst Remake or Rip-Off (TRANSFORMERS).
-Worst Picture.

Most of the complains is that the aliens weren't evil. That they seemed to be defending themselves*. Did any of you think that as well? I didn't, but it's because it was hard to pay attention to the plot.

*It's not a spoiler, but I wrote it in white because the point of the question is whether you were able to realize it on your own.

Edit: You'd be happy to know that it currently ranks #48 in my list of the worst movies ever made (there's only 50 titles so far).


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Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: August 17 2012 at 8:28pm
So, you gave it a 0?

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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 18 2012 at 8:08am
Yep. But I didn't know whether it deserved a 0 or a 1 until the very end. Which is why I'm still rooting for GHOST RIDER 2 to win Worst Picture.

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 4:02pm
I forgot to mention that I saw this film recently. I've made one attempt before, but I couldn't make it past the hour mark. With a second try, I finally finished it through the end. The verdict? I hated it. While watching it, I was debating if this or Transformers 3 was worse. I decided Battleship was the winner in that battle. The film is so stupid and an assault to the senses. While Transformers 3 was bad, Battleship felt like a huge infomercial for the Navy. I've seen that criticism used in other films before, but it wasn't until I saw this film that I understood what it meant.

Schumacher told me to wait for the unintentionally hilarious scene dealing with a couple of veterans and "Thunderstruck" playing in the background. I didn't laugh. I shouted in anger. But if there was something positive I have to say about the film, it would be the scenes where the grid was laid out, paying homage to the board game. I thought that part was pretty clever, but it wasn't enough to save the film. As for the actors, you can't really blame them. The script is the main culprit to the film's huge fall. As a joke, someone said the film was secretly directed by Michael Bay. I wouldn't be surprised. I see no essence of Peter Berg ANYWAY in the film. 2/10


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: August 28 2012 at 5:53pm
For what categories do you think it should be nominated?

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Posted By: moviewizguy
Date Posted: August 30 2012 at 4:38pm
I don't participate in the Award thing much, but I'd say Worst Picture and Worst Screenplay.
Originally posted by Vits

For what categories do you think it should be nominated?


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 06 2012 at 7:02pm
Originally posted by Vits

I just saw it. For your consideration:
-Worst Actor for Taylor Kitsch (also for JOHN CARTER).
-Worst Supp. Actor for Liam Neeson (also for WRATH OF THE TITANS).
-Worst Supp. Actor for Gregory D. Gadson.
-Worst New Star for Gregory D. Gadson.
-Worst Director.
-Worst Screenplay.
-Worst Remake or Rip-Off (TRANSFORMERS).
-Worst Picture.

Edit: You'd be happy to know that it currently ranks #48 in my list of the worst movies ever made (there's only 50 titles so far).
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Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: October 07 2012 at 1:36am
Saw it last night. I did not hate it as much as predicted. 

Not going to lie, I can get a bit excited over some explosion action. Also, watching it on an ES 8090 with crystal clear picture and mega sound system makes for a rather pleasant experience.

What was completely and utterly ridiculous though: 

- Story was lacking big time, we had tons of questions afterwards, like did the aliens come from the Super Earth, what was their actual plan, why did they not destroy all the ships immediately etc.

- The aliens' looks

- Scanning the horses, and then a horseshoe blinks up. Where the hell would an alien get that information from?  

- The tongue-in-cheek stuff. Idiotic!   

- Those fire chain wheels.

- The soundtrack. Misuse of Classic Rock.

- A 70 year old "museum ship" is fully functional, loaded with tons of torpedos, and has the original crew ready to blow 24/7? Yeah, right!   

I did not dislike the movie as much as Devil Inside, Ghost Rider 2 or Transformers 3, but it seems like enough people support it for several nominations anyway. 

The thing for me is, I have watched Taylor Kitsch in three movies this year. I'm not unsympathetic to him, but he is ripe for a RAZZing.

FYC: Taylor Kitsch for Worst Actor, Peter Berg for Worst Director





Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 7:25pm
7 months later, this is looking more and more to me like the film that will eventually "win" Worst Picture at the 2012 RAZZIES. But I must be missing something, because The Devil Inside and particularly A Thousand Words both have more to deserve that title, based on what I've seen. 

So here's what I know:
 
*That this is adapted from a board game. One could argue that in December 2000, a film called Dungeons & Dragons was released. D&D has no ties to Milton-Bradley, Parker Bros., Pressman, or Hasbro that I know of, and is more specifically considered a tabletop game, which was a forerunner of board games. My point is that even though Battleship is a board game adaptation, there were still films that people hated more this past year, and relatively few people would consider Battleship the worst wide release of the year. It is my understanding that those who don't like Battleship outnumber those who do by a paltry 2 to 1, which is bad enough for 2 or 3 RAZZIE nods, but not enough to earn Worst Picture beyond much doubt.

*That this had roughly the same graphic style as the Transformers trilogy, but with little or no involvement from Michael Bay. I can see why most people around here wouldn't like Transformers at all, but most commoners didn't mind Transformers 1, so I don't get the passion against the Transformers franchise that outweighs those films, franchises, and figureheads that the common people (particularly young men, whom Hollywood targeted with the Transformers series) hate far worse, such as Eddie Murphy's recent films, The Devil Inside, Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer, the Street Fighter and Dragonball films, Alvin & the Chipmunks, The Smurfs, and Amanda Sayfried as Riding Hood.
 
*That Rihanna sang such songs as "Pon de Replay", "SOS", "If it's Lovin' that You Want", and "Unfaithful" back in 2005 and 2006. Those are the only four Rihanna songs that I can name, and they're all from way early in her career. In circa 2009, she (and IIRC Beyonce Knowles) took up Autotune or some similar program, and their voices lost all distinction they had before. What could possibly be more unsavory about her that I wouldn't know because I pay so little attention to the music industry? My intuition says there's GOT to be a bigger reason for RAZZing her for Worst Supporting Actress than her feature film debut or her music-to-cinema crossover.

*That director Peter Berg had nothing this bad on his resume before last May, which means he isn't as bad a director as Brian Robbins or William Brent Bell...yet.
 
To sum it up, why can't A Thousand Words, The Devil Inside or That's My Boy beat Battleship for Worst Picture if more people in the commonplace loathed those?  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I would agree with you only so far as BATTLESHIP being a likely finalist for one of our five Worst Picture slots. Beyond that, as I see it, based on decades of experience handicapping these things, Worst Picture (and several other top 2012 dis-honors) are pretty much anyone's to "win."  Trying to predict what our members will eventually choose as the 2012's Berry Worst, before even knowing what they've chosen to nominate, seems a bit like putting the proverbial cart before the horse's arse...  




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Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 7:28am
Originally posted by GTAHater767

One could argue that in December 2000, a film called Dungeons & Dragons was released. D&D has no ties to Milton-Bradley, Parker Bros., Pressman, or Hasbro that I know of, and is more specifically considered a tabletop game, which was a forerunner of board games. My point is that even though Battleship is a board game adaptation, there were still films that people hated more this past year, and relatively few people would consider Battleship the worst wide release of the year.
I haven't seen D&D, but I've seen adaptations of non-narrative media. Actually, I recently saw SUPER MARIO BROS, which co-stars Samantha Mathis from ATLAS SHRUGGED PART 2. That movie definately deserved a Razzie. But it wasn't seen by enough people, and that's the key to this whole thing. D&D did make it to the ballots.

It's not that it automatically deserves a Razzie for being based on a board game. It deserves it for using the board game as an excuse to create a clichéd plot that didn't need to be attached to the game. I also recently saw BATMAN & ROBIN*. And then I watched  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77cuS2BGL9A -
*It currently ranks #62 (out of 66) on my all-time worst list, right below BATTLESHIP. I suppose that SchumacherH8ter can take that as a Christmas gift.
Originally posted by GTAHater767

I can see why most people around here wouldn't like Transformers at all, but most commoners didn't mind Transformers 1, so I don't get the passion against the Transformers franchise that outweighs those films, franchises, and figureheads that the common people (particularly young men, whom Hollywood targeted with the Transformers series) hate far worse
I did like TRANSFORMERS 1 & 3. Even if I hadn't, the problem isn't that BATTLESHIP has similarities with those movies and we associate them. The problem is that it shows the lack of originality for a visual style. Also, if you pay attention, you'll notice that specific shots are directly copied.
Originally posted by GTAHater767

*That Rihanna sang such songs as "Pon de Replay", "SOS", "If it's Lovin' that You Want", and "Unfaithful" back in 2005 and 2006. Those are the only four Rihanna songs that I can name, and they're all from way early in her career. In circa 2009, she (and IIRC Beyonce Knowles) took up Autotune or some similar program, and their voices lost all distinction they had before. What could possibly be more unsavory than her that I wouldn't know because I pay so little attention to the music industry? My intuition says there's GOT to be a bigger reason for RAZZing her for Worst Supporting Actress than her feature film debut or her music-to-cinema crossover.
That kind of cross-over is worth of attention to see if it's Razzie-worthy, but it's not automatically Razzie-worthy. Judging a performance can be subjective. Some people bought Rihanna in her role (like me), and others didn't.

By the way, Rihanna's best songs are from 2010-12, so you've been missing a lot. And I've seen many award shows and clips from concerts to tell when a singer is really singing or not. Rihanna and Beyoncé rarely use auto-tune live.
Originally posted by GTAHater767

*That director Peter Berg had nothing this bad on his resume before last May, which means he isn't as bad a director as Brian Robbins or William Brent Bell...yet.
If we only talk about him as a director (he's acted in many movies), the R.T. ratings of HANCOCK and VERY BAD THINGS are pretty close to BATTLESHIP's.

We're talking about the worst director of the year, not the worst directing of each director's career. In a way, that's why the Worst Career Achievement Award exists. I'm sure Robbins could be a good contender, if his resume wasn't full of mostly forgettable family movies.
Originally posted by GTAHater767

To sum it up, why can't A Thousand WordsThe Devil Inside or That's My Boy can't beat Battleship for Worst Picture if more people in the commonplace loathed those?
[Doing weird gangsta gesture] Yo, GTA! You know you're my man. But dawg, you're doing it again. You clearly mentioned 1000 WORDS and TDI more times than other movies because of their R.T. ratings. Can't really blame you though, since you're actually not the only one. It has to be what we personally hated the most. Did you even see them?

BATTLESHIP is hated in more aspects. All 5 main actors are in consideration. In fact, the R.T. concensus says that it's OK for non-demanding audiences, which is excusing the film. And that makes me think that the rating should be lower (I cannot believe that is higher than TRANSFORMERS 2's). The only specific flaw that people remember from TDI (saying things like it's not scary is too general) is the ending, and there's not a category for that. 1000 WORDS is only remembered as "That other Eddie Murphy bomb". TMB is actually on par with BATTLESHIP, because it also has a lot of actors in consideration, but only Sandler is the shoe-in so far. Not to mention that it was more harmful to society because of its messages and how it treated certain topics. At this point there's not an obvious 5th nominee. But no matter which one it is, it obviously won't win because it wasn't a shoe-in like the other 4.

Sorry HeadRAZZ. I know you said we shouldn't predict the results yet, but we can't help it with the forum polls, the predictions from other sites, and the fact that we've talked with one another enough to know what we're voting for.


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