Print Page | Close Window

Members' Discussion of ATLAS SHRUGGED, PART 2

Printed From: Official RAZZIE® Forum
Category: INFO. FORUMS & POLLS on 2012 RAZZIE® Choices...
Forum Name: ATLAS SHRUGGED, PART 2
Forum Discription: Nominated for 2 RAZZIE® Awards, Including Worst Director
URL: http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5998
Printed Date: April 23 2014 at 8:38pm


Topic: Members' Discussion of ATLAS SHRUGGED, PART 2
Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Subject: Members' Discussion of ATLAS SHRUGGED, PART 2
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 11:10am
THIS IS ONE of THOSE MOVIE's THAT's a "LABOR of LOVE" on the PART of ITS MAKERS -- AND the CINEMATIC EQUIVALENT of ONE of the LABORS of HERCULES to TRY and SIT THROUGH. 

A http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sequel-announced-for-the-low-budget-atlas-shruggedwith-awful-teaser - to LAST YEAR's http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum-discussion-of-atlas-shrugged-part-One_topic4969.html - (WHICH GOT http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/atlas_shrugged_part_i/ - at RT, http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=atlasshrugged.htm - and WAS LISTED ALL OVER LAST YEAR's http://razzies.com/join.asp - http://razzies.com/join.asp - ® http://razzies.com/join.asp - ) http://www.razzies.com/forum/atlas-shrugged-part-2_forum649.html - IS the SECOND INSTALLMENT of EVERY G.O.P. WONK's FAVORITE BOOK by EVERY RIGHT-WING ADVOCATE of "YER-ON-YER-OWN" ECONOMICS' FAVORITE NOVELIST, THAT AMORAL A-HOLE AYN RAND. 

CONTINUING the STORY-LINE from the FIRST FAILED FILM, THIS INSTALLMENT TURNED to BE EVERY BIT as SELF-SERVING, SLEEP-INDUCING and SOLID a BOX OFFICE DUD as ITS PREDECESSOR -- ALTHOUGH the RISE to PROMINENCE of PAUL RYAN as ONE of RAND's "BIGGEST FANS" DID HELP THIS ONE WIND UP LOSING... ONLY $16 MILLION! 

OKAY, FOLKS -- HAUL OUT YER BEST "HEARTLESS RICH FOLKS" JOKES and...HAVE AT IT!  

TO PERHAPS INSPIRE YOU, HERE's a http://www.razzies.com/forum/foto-funny-for-atlas-shrugged-part-2_topic5996.html - to SEE Ye Olde Head RAZZberry's FOTO FUNNY for THIS FILM... 

AND HERE's the http://www.razzies.com/forum/atlas-shrugged-part-2_forum649.html%20 - for the "ADDITIONAL INFO" PAGE ON ATLAS SHRUGGED, PART 2...




-------------
Ye Olde Head RAZZberry



Replies:
Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 11:51am
Wow! I was expecting to see the first one by the second one's release. But it didn't get a release... anywhere! I'll be shocked if I ever catch it on TV.

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 12:27pm

None of the mostly no name cast showed up. Just about the only name I recognized from the first one was Armin Shimerman.  

 
This movie has Samantha Mathis, whose name and voice you might remember with fondness or dread depending on what your views are ona certain movie (HINT: People say Avatar ripped it off.) Oh, and she was also in that POS Super Mario Brothers Movie.  
 
Also in this movie is Biff (Don't tell me you don't know who I'm referring to), Brave and Bold's Batman, and Teller. 
 
Yes, Penn and Teller's Teller. 
 
 
Oh, just out of curiosity, is next week's Worst of the Weak going to be Alex Cross?
 

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Not sure yet, though industry word is that ALEX CROSS should be eminently RAZZ-worthy...
 
 
 


-------------
Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.

Worst Supporting Actor: Brendan Fraser/Gimme Shelter and The Nut Job




Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 09 2012 at 1:17pm
So the Gray's Sports Almanac didn't pay him enough money?  

Originally posted by oiram

Also in this movie is Biff (Don't tell me you don't know who I'm referring to), Brave and Bold's Batman, and Teller.



-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 11 2012 at 5:34pm
There won't be a consensus for a few days. But I'd like to point out that, according to Rotten Tomatoes, 72% of their audience wants to see this!

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 11:26am
Vits, I have a strong feeling that the 72% of RT Members who want to see this may be "Randroids"!!

-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vheid
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 3:57am
Was I the only person who was kind of surprised to see Ray Wise in the trailer... I wasn't expecting him to be ultra-conservative based on his movie/TV-choices (or is he just doing it for the money?)...  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: As a fan of both TWIN PEAKS and REAPER, I, too, was surprised to see http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/ - in the ads for this. One of my favorite character actors, Wise also appeared in what I consider one of the Top Ten Best TV Promos of All Time -- Playing Satan in an ad for REAPER, Wise was seen scampering merrily thru a Halloween-decorated neighborhood to Andy Williams' recording of "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year." 

Given how cheap-jack both ATLAS SHRUGGED movies look, for Wise's sake, I hope he didn't do it for the money 'cause it probably wasn't all that much!  




-------------


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 1:04pm

Ray Wise seems like a guy who would appear in anything for money.



-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 2:09pm
Well, he's not really a star, so...

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:42pm
I was one of the few who saw ATLAS SHAGGED, PART 1, a.k.a. SUPERTRAIN, THE MOTIONLESS PICTURE. I really don't want to spend another session in a theater with a dozen Randroids holding their worn copies of Atlas Shagged as if they were in a church service...

-------------
2013's WORST PIC-After Earth ACTOR-Jaden Smith & Johnny Depp ACTRESS-Lindsay Lohan! SUP ACTRESS--Kim Kardashian! SUP ACTOR-Chris Brown DIRECTOR--Good "Night"! SCREAMPLAY--The Lone Ranger.


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 4:49am
I'm curious...did Teller have any lines? Wink Penn and Teller are great guys. I have my political differences with Penn Gillette, but I respect him tremendously. I really don't have clue one why Teller would appear in a steaming pile like this. He doesn't need the money and he isn't nearly as politically motivated as Penn.  

Originally posted by oiram

Also in this movie is Biff (Don't tell me you don't know who I'm referring to), Brave and Bold's Batman, and Teller. Yes, Penn and Teller's Teller.


-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 5:47am
Penn and Teller are hard core Libertarians -- Especially Penn.




-------------
2013's WORST PIC-After Earth ACTOR-Jaden Smith & Johnny Depp ACTRESS-Lindsay Lohan! SUP ACTRESS--Kim Kardashian! SUP ACTOR-Chris Brown DIRECTOR--Good "Night"! SCREAMPLAY--The Lone Ranger.


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 14 2012 at 7:51pm
Gosh, as of 8pm/PST the Sunday after it opened, what was the TomatoMeter giving this????  

A BIG FAT ZERO!!!!!!  



-------------
2013's WORST PIC-After Earth ACTOR-Jaden Smith & Johnny Depp ACTRESS-Lindsay Lohan! SUP ACTRESS--Kim Kardashian! SUP ACTOR-Chris Brown DIRECTOR--Good "Night"! SCREAMPLAY--The Lone Ranger.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 7:54am
Yeah, while 80% of the audience liked it. Maybe SchumacherH8ter was right about those R.T. members being "Rand-roids"!

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 10:11pm
Vits, when I went to see Atlas Shagged Part 1, I can vouch that the "Rand-roids" at that showing were treating it as a church service. And they were clearly batsh*t crazy!

-------------
2013's WORST PIC-After Earth ACTOR-Jaden Smith & Johnny Depp ACTRESS-Lindsay Lohan! SUP ACTRESS--Kim Kardashian! SUP ACTOR-Chris Brown DIRECTOR--Good "Night"! SCREAMPLAY--The Lone Ranger.


Posted By: HeadRAZZBerry
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 10:06am
UPDATE from Head RAZZberry: As of 10am/PST on the Tuesday following its opening weekend, this is still sitting at ZERO, with 15 reviews listed ( http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/atlas_shrugged_part_ii/ - ). I now feel strongly that, regardless of the movie-goers' response to it (which seems, if anything, even less enthusiastic than the critics' reviews!) this is one of those films that every  http://razzies.com/join.asp - - ®should go out of their way to see. This combination of hubris and incompetence should not be allowed to go un-RAZZed a second time... 




-------------
Ye Olde Head RAZZberry


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 11:04pm
I have a free movie ticket and I was planning on using it to see this without giving the makers any money.

-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 18 2012 at 5:51pm
Looks like it's gonna stay around 5% on R.T.

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 21 2012 at 5:03am
I am really grossed out at the prospect of having to sit through this piece of crap, but it looks inevitable. Maybe rather than creating a special category for all the vulgar political propaganda that has been thrown at us this year, we could just lump them all into one nomination, for "Films that Brainwashed the Brainless"??

-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: October 21 2012 at 5:51pm
I am intimately familiar with Penn Gillette's political leanings. He is also an intelligent guy, quite capable of seeing through the numerous logical errors in Rand's work. Teller, as noted, isn't nearly as politically motivated, and his appearance in this film is puzzling. I can only assume he did it as a favor to somebody?  

Originally posted by JoeBacon

Penn and Teller are hard core Libertarians -- Especially Penn.


-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 24 2012 at 3:41pm
Well, I'm back from seeing this. It makes the last one look like Raiders Of The Lost Ark. I'll review it when Horror Movie Month 2's done. To tide you over, here's my grade: Rotten Asshole

-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 24 2012 at 5:22pm
Will you write your "FYC" in your review, then?

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 24 2012 at 6:54pm
I'll just do my For Your Considerations now:

Worst Picture  

Worst Director: John Putch  
 
Worst Actor: Jason Beghe  
 
Worst Actress: Samantha Mathis  
 
Worst Supporting Actor: Diedrich Bader  
 
Worst Supporting Actor: Patrick Fabian  
 
Worst Supporting Actor: Sean Hannity (as himself)  
 
Worst Supporting Actress: Kim Rhodes  
 
Worst Screenplay  
 
Worst Screen Couple (if we keep it/don't combine it with Worst Screen Ensemble): 
             Any pair of paranoid Randroids
 
Worst Screen Ensemble 
 
Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-Off, or Sequel 
 
Worst Propaganda Film (if we do this) 
 
So...basically every category!  




-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: October 25 2012 at 7:24am
So, not Thomas F. Wilson nor Teller?

-------------
Elizabeth Hartman and Judith Barsi are more talented and beautiful than Scarlett Johansson and Chloe Grace Moretz. Fact.

Worst Supporting Actor: Brendan Fraser/Gimme Shelter and The Nut Job




Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: October 25 2012 at 1:58pm
Wilson and Teller only had cameos and they weren't offensively bad like Sean "I almost make Bill O'Reilly look good" Hannity's.

-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: October 26 2012 at 8:15pm
I SECOND ALL THE NOMINATIONS! Dead



-------------
2013's WORST PIC-After Earth ACTOR-Jaden Smith & Johnny Depp ACTRESS-Lindsay Lohan! SUP ACTRESS--Kim Kardashian! SUP ACTOR-Chris Brown DIRECTOR--Good "Night"! SCREAMPLAY--The Lone Ranger.


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: October 27 2012 at 8:02am
Did you see it already?

-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: SchumacherH8ter
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 4:12pm
Time for Atlas Shrugged Part II, the worst movie of the year and one of the worst movies ever. I saw it with a free ticket and I STILL feel ripped off! The film impressively manages to be worse than both the first film AND the novel it's based on!
 
9.) The Sean Hannity cameo: Without a doubt, Sean Hannity is the worst person on Fox News. Bill O'Reilly may be louder, but he's had moments of not-stupidity.* Hannity's never had such moments. In his thankfully brief cameo, Hannity talks about Henry Reardon and acts like you'd expect Sean Hannity to act.
 
8.) Diedrich Bader: Why was he in this? He plays Quentin Daniels, a scientist that studies the perpetual energy device that they found in the first one. His acting is pretty bad. My theory on why he was in here: Bader's mostly known for Office Space and Office Space director Mike Judge is apparantly a major Libertarian. Maybe Judge seduced Bader into the Libertarian side?
 
7.) The Richard Halley scene: Richard Halley is a conductor that "goes Galt." Now, you're probably wondering why a conductor is being lumped in with the leaders of industry and there's a reason. A terrible, egotistical reason. See, Ayn Rand wanted to imagine herself as one of the "important" people. To make herself seem important, she had Galt recruit artists. So, the only reason this scene exists is because Rand wanted to be important.
 
6.) Jason Beghe: Beghe plays Henry Reardon, a steel tycoon who invents a new metal. Beghe can't act to save his life. He makes Grant Bowler, the Reardon from the first one, look like an actual actor.
 
5.) The special effects: The film startes out in media res with an airplane chase. Yes, really. The four other people in the audience were confused by this too. The planes on screen are horiffic in their badness. Towards the end of the movie, one of Taggart Transcontinental's trains crashes into a military train and there's a massive explosion. The explosion is one of the fakest you'll ever see.
 
4.) Samantha Mathis: What the Hell happened to her career? Her performance as Dany Taggart is one of the worst female performances of the 21st Century so far. She makes Taylor Schilling look like Meryl Streep.
 
3.) John Putch: Putch has no talent for directing or visual flair. The film is just drab looking. He can't direct the actors to save his life.
 
2.) Patrick Fabian: Fabian plays Dagy's brother James. In the first film, were he's played by Matthew Marsden, James was a bland sulker. Here, he's a scenery chewing madman. And Fabian plays him terribly! I kind of wish that Nicolas Cage played him because it might have been interesting in a train-wreck way. Also, it would have guaranteed the film at least one Razzie nod!
 
1.) The script: There's one person who returned for this one: Brian Patrick O'Toole, one of the film's writers. Joined by a former editor and the writer of several Walker, Texas Rangers episodes, all three manage to make a screenplay written worse than the actual book! In all honesty, this is probably on the five worst screenplays ever, with Batman & Robin, Batlefield Earth, Highlander II, and every Seltzerberg movie (they're all counted together).
 
One thing the film does better than the book: the train crash. See, after the crash, Rand goes into detail on how each passenger deserved to die. Yes really. Grade: Rotten Asshole.
 
Next-up: Howard The Duck!
 
*For example: http://videogum.com/469031/a-rare-moment-of-moral-clarity-from-bill-oreilly/top-stories/ - http://videogum.com/469031/a-rare-moment-of-moral-clarity-from-bill-oreilly/top-stories/


-------------
I'm the Goddamn Batman.-All-Star Batman And Robin #2
https://twitter.com/Scott_DAgostino
Upcoming reviews: http://www.razzies.com/forum/topic7513.html


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by SchumacherH8ter

Diedrich Bader: Why was he in this?
Character actors can't afford to be picky. He's also been in THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES, THE COUNTRY BEARS, EUROTRIP, MISS CONGENIALITY 2, BALLS OF FURY, MEET THE SPARTANS, OPEN SEASON 2 and VAMPIRES SUCK.


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: saturnwatcher
Date Posted: November 06 2012 at 10:51pm
What a monumental triumph it would be if we could swing Worst Supporting Actor nominations for both Billo the Clown and Sean Hannity!

-------------
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken


Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 10:23am
Originally posted by Vits

Looks like it's gonna stay around 5% on R.T.

"Poorly written, clumsily filmed and edited, and hampered by amateurish acting, it does no favors to the ideology it so fervently champions".


-------------
You can follow me http://www.twitter.com/@Vits_Chile - @Vits_Chile


Posted By: cvcjr13
Date Posted: December 30 2012 at 10:31am
It's bad enough that Ayn Rand pretended to be writing about individualism and the supposed "greatness" of the rich and powerful.  What's even worse is that she was really writing about her own narcissism and how she wanted to be among the rich and powerful -- without possessing even their often meager talents.  It's beyond pale how current Libertarians and Conservatives have twisted what Rand wrote into what is essentially a horrifying justification for social Darwinism.  And it's extremely fitting that, when these adherents put this novel up on the screen, their film is as awful as the author, the source material AND their misconceptions.  
 
Please vote the hell out of all the nominations for this movie.  I know, I know, this appears to be the year of Breaking Wind, Fart 2 and its sparkling vampires and beefcake werewolves.  However, I think we need to make a statement about how crappy this particular film is.
 


-------------



Print Page | Close Window