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    Posted: August 25 2011 at 11:16am
In my opinion, the third Beverly Hills Cop movie killed Eddie Murphy's career,  and it's never been the same since...    

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Right now, I am revisiting the Beverly Hills Cop movies - great 80s rubbish!    ; )
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I just saw THE GODFATHER. Yes, THE THE GODFATHER.  

Usually when people dislike an old movie is because they've seen modern rip-offs of that movie first. I've seen a bunch of mafia and/or gangster movies,but none of the have such amazing dialogue. We also get engaging characters and good performances. Well,Pacino did good during the last part, but before...I know he was meant to be playing a quiet and soft teen but it came off as if he was just reading lines.

I know this movie is based on a novel but it has the same narrative structure as a book. The plot changes every 1/2 hour or so. Once or twice I asked myself "where's this movie heading?" and I think it's normal for people to do that.

I give it 7/10.

After watching this, CASABLANCA, GONE WITH THE WIND and CITIZEN KANE, all I have to do is re-watch THE WIZARD OF OZ and then I can die.
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"The Godfather" gets less an a perfect score!? Blashphemy!
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Are you by any chance one of my grandparents? Because they always hear just the title and the grade!  LOL
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Sorry, Vits, but you're not giving any good reason for GODFATHER to not have a perfect score. I for one am glad Al Pacino was soft spoken, #1 because that's the character and how he changed over time (that's a little something called character development) and #2 it's better than the kind of actor he has become, the one that yells in everything he appears in. And now you're even admitting that your opinions of classic movies are being influenced by modern movies that have copied from them, which is why I suggested not grading the classics in the first place.
 
And by any chance, are you my 18 year old cousin, if the movie is older than 1990, it's not good enough for you and shouldn't be considered important or respected? (Sorry, had to make some kind of lame comeback).  

Originally posted by Vits

Are you by any chance one of my grandparents?Because they always hear just the title and the grade.
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Why are my reasons not good? Also, I said people in general (not me) are influenced by modern rip-offs.  

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

...you're not giving any good reason for it to not have a perfect score. And now you're even admitting that your opinions of classic movies are being influenced by modern movies that have copied from them...
 

I didn't say it was wrong that he spoke soft,I said I felt he got carried away by it.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

I for one am glad Al Pacino was soft spoken...

Did I say it doesn't deserve to be considered one of the best movies? No, I said I don't consider it that. 

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

And by any chance, are you my 18 year old cousin, if the movie is older than 1990, it's not good enough for you and shouldn't be considered important or respected? (Sorry, had to make some kind of lame comeback).

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I just don't think Pacino being soft spoken is a good enough reason to not give GODFATHER a perfect score. That and because it's considered the greatest mafia movie ever (with the exception of maybe "Goodfellas"), so of course people will copy from it.
 
Back to Pacino, if you have seen enough of his movies, you will know full well that he doesn't do anything half-assed. If he's going to be soft spoken, he will be pin-drop quiet; if he's going to yell, he's going to sound like he's using a megaphone.
 
As for your overall opinion, I don't know, I just think you're short-changing timeless classics. One point away from a perfect score, I can accept, but 3 or 4 points, there better be a good reason for it besides not having modern entertainment value like fast pacing or state of the special effects.
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1)Regardless of how Pacino spoke, I didn't like his performance.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

I just don't think Pacino being soft spoken is a good enough reason to not give GODFATHER a perfect score. That and because it's considered the greatest mafia movie ever (with the exception of maybe "Goodfellas")...

2)I know it's considered that,but that does not obligate me to love it. 

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

One point away from a perfect score, I can accept, but 3 or 4 points, there better be a good reason for it besides not having modern entertainment value like fast pacing or state of the special effects.
 

When did I say anything like that?  
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1. Well, there are millions of movie lovers who would strongly disagree with you, but that's your opinion and I suppose you're entitled to it.
2. Again, that's your opinion. I just think three points is a bit much due to such a trival thing like an actor being soft spoken because that's what is called for the character. It's like giving a low score to "Rain Man" for calling Dustin Hoffman's performance annoying when it's one of the main traits of the Raymond character.
3. I was talking about your other reviews of classic movies, ie. "2001" and "Ghostbusters". There's a reason why most professional critics are old men, they grew up watching movies from different eras, and they do not judge them from what more modern movies can accomplish.  

Originally posted by Vits

1)Regardless of how Pacino spoke, I didn't like his performance.
2)I know it's considered that,but that does not obligate me to love it. 
When did I say anything like that?  
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I disagree on at least one point: Pacino totally mailed it in with his performance in Any Given Sunday. That shouldn't be surprising. It was a dreadful movie and he was so wildly miscast it isn't hard to understand why he didn't take it seriously.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia 

 
Back to Pacino, if you have seen enough of his movies, you will know full well that he doesn't do anything half-assed.

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1)I didn't review them, I commented on them. I didn't gave them my usual analysis, and as I did with THE GODFATHER.
 
2)I won't deny my age sometimes makes me look at movies differently, but I have a problem when people seem to only care about my age. There is no movie that everyone will like, and there never will be. But you respond to me as if I hated this one. I liked it, and gave it 4 stars out of 5.

Originally posted by SuperTeenTopia

I was talking about your other reviews of classic movies, ie. "2001" and "Ghostbusters". There's a reason why most professional critics are old men, they grew up watching movies from different eras, and they do not judge them from what more modern movies can accomplish.


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Well, nowadays, Pacino "mails it in" almost all the time, but I was just mentioning his overuse of both whisphering and yelling.  


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Well, like it or not, age is a big factor in whether  you're going to like certain movies. If you're under the age of 30, and you give a perfect score to some popcorn movie that's all CGI and no story, but then give a low score to a classic black and white movie, people will write you off as being too young and not knowing what makes a good movie. 

That's just the way it works, and why most critics are old men, because after 30-50 years of movie watching, they should know what a good movie is.  

Originally posted by Vits

 2)I won't deny my age sometimes makes me look at movies differently,but I have a problem when people seem to only care abouit my age.
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SuperTeenTopia: 

1)How many of my reviews(not comments) have you read all the way through?  

2)Why do you assume I dislike all the old movies I've seen?  

3)Why would they hire me if I'm "too young"?
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Vits --  

1. I've read most of what you posted here. 

2. Based on what you have posted, it seems you're often unimpressed by classic films.  

3. Who hired you? Are you professional, or just a some guy who posts reviews on IMDb.com for his own amusement?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2011 at 9:34am
1)Most of what I post here are comments,not reviews.That's why I asked.If you think my opinions are wrong, that's fine, because that's also an opinion, which is the whole point. But I want you to read first my fulll reviews -- The link is in my signature. 

2)Come on.I've been through enough forums to know the deal. Let's say that of all the classics I've seen, I've liked most of them. But you wouldn't care. You would just care about the ones I didn't like. I said that I liked 3 of the 4 main performances in THE GODFATHER and all you care was about one of them. If you disagree with me, fine. But at least admit that statement is true.

3)Sorry, I forgot you're new here. I now work as a film critic for the magazine La Pollera. That link is also in my signature.

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