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    Posted: February 12 2010 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by Vits

O.K..You're right on the fact that you're entitled to your opinion,but you can't simply say it's bad,considerin'that aside from the good B.O.,that as we established,doesn't mean a lot,it has good reviews,and the Golden Globe for "Best Movie-Comedy And/Or Musical".
 

It's not "the most profitable comedy of all time",it's the most profitable R-rated comedy of all time.

 

THE PROPOSAL did $100 million better than PAUL BLART,and that one had better reviews,but of course not as good as the reviews of THE HANGOVER.


Which movie are you talking about? If you're talking about Paul Blart, it had an abysmal 34%. There's no argument that it's a good movie, unless you're 13 and under, and you've never seen a good comedy. Great BO simply does not mean a good movie.
Whatever Hangover has, it holds a record, and it was not the best R rated comedy of all time. I'd call Airplane!, for example, far better. The Proposal was a 43%... Still pretty awful. Look, critics are pretentious and holier-than-thou, and sometimes their tastes are a bit TOO specific for the common man, but when you look at them collectively, like Rotten Tomatoes does, you get a pretty good idea of how good the movie is, by getting the professional opinion of a wide variety of people, keyword "PROFESSIONAL". And then, if you take into account the top 10 BO of the week, and how often you see the little green splattered tomatoes, you start to get a sense that there's a very large disconnect between "the people" and "the people who know what they're talking about".
Great Box Office =/= Great, Good, or even Not Terrible
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by Vits

O.K..You're right on the fact that you're entitled to your opinion,but you can't simply say it's bad,considerin'that aside from the good B.O.,that as we established,doesn't mean a lot,it has good reviews,and the Golden Globe for "Best Movie-Comedy And/Or Musical".
 

It's not "the most profitable comedy of all time",it's the most profitable R-rated comedy of all time.

 

THE PROPOSAL did $100 million better than PAUL BLART,and that one had better reviews,but of course not as good as the reviews of THE HANGOVER.


Which movie are you talking about? If you're talking about Paul Blart, it had an abysmal 34%. There's no argument that it's a good movie, unless you're 13 and under, and you've never seen a good comedy. Great BO simply does not mean a good movie.
Whatever Hangover has, it holds a record, and it was not the best R rated comedy of all time. I'd call Airplane!, for example, far better. The Proposal was a 43%... Still pretty awful. Look, critics are pretentious and holier-than-thou, and sometimes their tastes are a bit TOO specific for the common man, but when you look at them collectively, like Rotten Tomatoes does, you get a pretty good idea of how good the movie is, by getting the professional opinion of a wide variety of people, keyword "PROFESSIONAL". And then, if you take into account the top 10 BO of the week, and how often you see the little green splattered tomatoes, you start to get a sense that there's a very large disconnect between "the people" and "the people who know what they're talking about".
Great Box Office =/= Great, Good, or even Not Terrible
 
What movie was I talkin'bout?Gee,I don't know.It has to be PAUL BLART since it won the Golden Globe...was that sarcasm?Yes(DR. SHELDON COOPER).
 
THE HANGOVER is the highest grossin'R-rated comedy.Check anywhere.
 
Most people's opinions on movies are about the same at what critics feel.
 
All my comments'bout "not that bad" movies at the B.O.,have nothing to do with how good a movie does.Movies with great reviews and awards have flopped,such as KISS KISS,BANG BANG,STRANGER THAN FICTION(my all-time favorite dramedy)and more recently,CRAZY HEART.
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Paul Blart won a Golden Globe?

I don't doubt that The Hangover is the highest grossing R-Rated Comedy... That's kinda why I brought it up.

I think I'm entirely missing what you're trying to argue at this point. My point, stated simply and clearly, is "A bad movie can do well at the box office, for as long, if not longer, than a good movie."
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Paul Blart won a Golden Globe?


If you're gon'na be sarcastic,write it like me.If you're serious,then no,it didn't.I was talkin'bout THE HANGOVER.

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

I think I'm entirely missing what you're trying to argue at this point. My point, stated simply and clearly, is "A bad movie can do well at the box office, for as long, if not longer, than a good movie."

Sorry,I didn't get that.It's just I've been arguin'with B.H.B.,and I thought you were replyin'cuz you were takin'his side.
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Lol dude, no one gets and does sarcasm better than I do. I never said anything bad about The Hangover, other than it wasn't the funniest movie ever. Now, I've said Paul Blart was crap, and therefor, if you're talking about a movie that I said was bad, I'm going to assume you're referring to Paul Blart. In other words, you simply weren't clear enough as to which movie you were referring.

My argument is independent of his in this case, yes. I'm guessing our points of view aren't terribly different, but I feel that I've stayed fairly consistent with my point.
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Yeah.We should team up agains B.H.B..
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I just saw WHITE CHICKS AGAIN.I still laugh,despite having bad directing.

I also saw PAUL BLART.Not that funny,but still a lot.
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And the bad script, the bad make-up, the bad acting ...  

Originally posted by Vits

I just saw WHITE CHICKS AGAIN.I still laugh,despite having bad directing.
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I totally agree with Vits (see below). We've seen quite a long thread of badly reviewed films doing great and those with great reviews flopping. I think it's a trend that has been established that whatever doesn't appeal to the massive audience, regardless of its actual quality, will probably not do too well at the box office, while something "made for the masses" can receive terrible reviews and still make money. That is the reality of film-making now, isn't it? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I am not trying to sound like an expert.   

Originally posted by Vits

Movies with great reviews and awards have flopped,such as KISS KISS,BANG BANG,STRANGER THAN FICTION(my all-time favorite dramedy)and more recently,CRAZY HEART.
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Sorry, but I think you're a little late to the party. Not because the post you quoted was from last year, but because right now, THE HELP has #1 at the box office for three weeks, while a lot of this year's remakes and sequels(with and without 3-D) have either flopped or grossed less than expected.
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Oh, haha, sorry about the late quote :D. It's just my personal impression, really, I am not trying to pass for an expert :)
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That's OK.I'm not an expert either.I just wrote what I've heard and read.
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