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    Posted: November 20 2008 at 3:13pm
I find it ironic that this movie comes out after 2 specific South Park episodes:

1) The HSM parody - where they paint the popularity of the movie as being due more in part to the guy(s) in it than what's actually happening.

2) The "Vamp" kids episode - where kids are going in droves to Hot Topic to look like vampires. (Incidentally, I find the reference to be rather dated... HT has been around for a while now, and, at least at the stores around here, Hot Topic is more like a Gap with the clothes all dyed black... Which leads me to believe that it has more to do with the movie than HT itself... and no, I don't go around calling Hot Topic "HT" with any regularity, I was just trying to be brief, but now my fingers are in typing mode and so I'm just rambling and I've completely negated the point in doing so.)

This leads me to believe there is some sort of secret conspiracy against this movie.
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Ah, the usual saturnwatcher vs. Miguel debate, one of the best thing about this fourm.

And no, we are not bashing it because it's a "horror" movie (which it isn't), we're bashing it because it's every teenage soap opera you see on The CW -- except with vampires as the leads.

"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MiguelAntilsu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 5:55pm

CW has nothing to do with this.  Come to think of it, if you look at the numbers on Rotten Tomatoes, you can see the community stooping to the critics' level.  I mean, look at those meaningless middle fingers they're holding up!

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The CW has become the token "pretty-rich-teenagers-who-have-nothing-better-to-do-but-sho p-and-sleep-around-then-whine-when--it-backfires-on-them-bec ause-their parents'-credit-cards-max-out-or-they-get-preggers-or-an-STD " network.

When your cast is made up entirely of too pretty teenagers ... CW alert!

Plus, what is about Rotten Tomatoes that you hate so much? It's just a collection of critics' reviews! 

"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nasty Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 4:21am

Yo, MiguelAntilsu -- Take a moment, take a deep breath...and let that giant knot in your panties unravel! 

I'm worried you're about to have a coronary thrombosis or  a stroke...and I find your postings here so amusing, that'd be a great loss to us all!!

 

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

You are so corrupt! You should televise your Movie Awards of the Damned so everyone can see how corrupt you guys are!    

Damn you all!

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Well, let's not go too far! Probably the only show on the CW that is actually interesting happens to be Supernatural. Basically, it's better than Twilight.

I'm not saying CW's other shows are bad. Probably the only actors and actresses good on the network are Blake Lively (dopey pout aside, she CAN act), Erica Durance (next to Dana Delaney and Margot Kidder, the best portrayal of Lois Lane) Kristin Kreuk (I'm curious to see what she can do with the character of Chun-Li in the next Street Fighter film) Leighton Meester (her portrayal of Blair Wooldorf is riveting), Penn Badgeley (he has kind of a Jensen Ackles-type sarcasm; he'd work as one of the comic relief Justice Leaguers in a Justice League film, add a Red Bull) Sophia Bush (a solid actress who has a bad taste in scripts - The Hitcher, anyone?), and Tom Welling (the only good Superman out there). Did I miss any? 


Originally posted by Michaels

The CW has become the token "pretty-rich-teenagers-who-have-nothing-better-to-do- but-sho p-and-sleep-around-then-whine-when--it-backfires-on -them-bec ause-their parents'-credit-cards-max-out-or-they-get-pregge rs-or-an-STD " network.

When your cast is made up entirely of too pretty teenagers ... CW alert!

Plus, what is about Rotten Tomatoes that you hate so much? It's just a collection of critics' reviews!

You think you know, but you have no idea.
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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

You are so corrupt! You should televise your Movie Awards of the Damned so everyone can see how corrupt you guys are! Damn you all!

Well, there's one little problem as to why we can't. See, most major TV stations are also owned by motion picture studios and companies. Seeing as how our awards are to mock the worst of what the studios make, I don't think any of them would be willing to air an award show on one of their TV networks that points out their own short comings.

As for RoadDog's list of the CW's few talents, I'll give those actors and actresses more credit once they escape the evil realm of teenage soap operas. 

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And about Scientologists, not just Tom Cruise, but even South Park has dealt with that and eventually spoofing it with the episode "Trapped in the Closet". It did cause Isaac Hayes to opt out of his contract from South Park since he too was a Scientologist causing Chef to be retired from the series, and right after Bernie Mac died, he passed on as well. Rest in peace, Chef.

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About soap operas, Days of Our Lives is on the verge of collapse after firing two of its cast members.  Yahoo.com told me that this TV genre may be on the verge of apocalypse after the aforementioned events.

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Until yesterday, I didn't know this film was such a hot property. I was eating lunch and listening to the ravings of this girl at a nearby table dishing to her friends about the greatness of the book. Or film. Whatever. Anyway, she goes on and on about amazing it all is and mentions how some of the stuff in the story is fake, and how some of it is real.

For example, vampires are real.

And that's when my opinion of this movie's fanbase plummeted.

I won't go off on a rant here, but how delusional can people be? And how can anyone get that hyped over something this formulaic? It's not like we haven't had movies like this come out with numbing regularity.

Near Dark, anyone?
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...HUH?   
Chef was eaten to death by his Thetans... 

Originally posted by sportsartist24

And about Scientologists, not just Tom Cruise, but even South Park has dealt with that and eventually spoofing it with the episode "Trapped in the Closet". It did cause Isaac Hayes to opt out of his contract from South Park since he too was a Scientologist causing Chef to be retired from the series, and right after Bernie Mac died, he passed on as well. Rest in peace, Chef.
 


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These are the Movie Preview Critic's thoughts about the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR2P20QeXxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKlI4E-pLfs

Now, before you jump all over it, yes I know his opinion is based solely on what he has seen in the trailers. He has explained that since the movie trailer is a major selling point of a movie, if the trailer sucks, chances are so does the movie, because you can study a trailer and decode it to figure out what the movie will be like.

I agree with him that if you are a fan of the book, chances are you will love the movie, but if you don't have any clue what the book is like, then chances are the movie will be the same old, same old teenage lovers movie that has been made a million times before ... or say, the same old, same old teenage soap opera on the CW.

PS: There's a teenager version of "The X-Men" in the works, by the same producer who created "The OC" and "Gossip Girl". UGH!!!!

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Originally posted by sportsartist24

And about Scientologists, not just Tom Cruise, but even South Park has dealt with that and eventually spoofing it with the episode "Trapped in the Closet". It did cause Isaac Hayes to opt out of his contract from South Park since he too was a Scientologist causing Chef to be retired from the series, and right after Bernie Mac died, he passed on as well. Rest in peace, Chef.

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And even though Soul Men wasn't a very good film, I'm glad it wasn't nominated for any Razzies because that would just be absurd.

As for Twilight, it's basically a gothic chick flick.

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The anticipation that the fans of the book had seemed to overpower the anticipation of...anybody else.  The fact that its based on a book and not a foriegn film might keep this film from getting a Razzie nomination.

Originally posted by Michaels

These are the Movie Preview Critic's thoughts about the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR2P20QeXxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKlI4E-pLfs

Now, before you jump all over it, yes I know his opinion is based solely on what he has seen in the trailers. He has explained that since the movie trailer is a major selling point of a movie, if the trailer sucks, chances are so does the movie, because you can study a trailer and decode it to figure out what the movie will be like.

I agree with him that if you are a fan of the book, chances are you will love the movie, but if you don't have any clue what the book is like, then chances are the movie will be the same old, same old teenage lovers movie that has been made a million times before ... or say, the same old, same old teenage soap opera on the CW.

PS: There's a teenager version of "The X-Men" in the works, by the same producer who created "The OC" and "Gossip Girl". UGH!!!!

When you say "before you jump all over it", are you talking to me?

So there are CW elements in it.

When you say "Teenager version of 'The X-Men'", do you mean in the lines of High School Musical or something like that (I don't even want to imagine it)?

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They've done "X-Men as teenagers" shows before as cartoons... More than once, I believe. I'm assuming it's something like that. But the way I imagine it, with that team mentioned behind it, it sounds like a couple of boys with superpowers saving their teenage girl superpowers, and vice versa, and everyone dates everyone. And that takes prominence over the whole point of the X-Men, with its overall theme of tolerance. 

[/QUOTE] When you say "before you jump all over it", are you talking to me? So there are CW elements in it. When you say "Teenager version of 'The X-Men'", do you mean in the lines of High School Musical or something like that (I don't even want to imagine it)?[/QUOTE]

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Seventeen-year-old Isabella "Bella" Swan moves to the small town of
Forks, Washington, to live with her father. There, she finds herself
drawn to a mysterious classmate, Edward Cullen, who is revealed to be a
108-year-old vampire but is physically seventeen. Although Edward
discourages the romance at first, they soon fall deeply in love. When
the arrival of three nomadic vampires puts Bella's life in danger,
Edward and his family put their lives at stake to save her.

You may question yourself now, "What is with this hype?", "Have the
world gone mad?", or even "Should I even see this?" You don't know what
this is all about but you're curious. This is where I come in, and
other millions of reviews you can read to gain answers from these
questions and even millions more. No, I have not read the books.
Actually, I have chosen to try to watch movies before I read their
original sources because comparing the two can cause huge problems.
*cough*Harry Potter*cough* No, I'm not a fan, so I WAS in the same boat
as you. To start this off, I wasn't looking forward to this film. So
why did I see this? My brother read the book and wanted to see the
movie. But now I can say I left the theater with a huge smile on my
face.

So what is this hype? It's nothing different than the "Harry Potter"
frenzy and any other frenzy you can think of (LotR, Star Wars, etc).
This is basically a vampire love story for this year's generation, and
I'm part of it (which might be another reason the movie appealed to
me). So what's different about this than other vampire love stories? I
guess it has to deal with the young cast, which gives off a hint of
freshness, if you ask me. No doubt, the target demographic for this
film are the fans of the books, plus millions of teenage girls. If
you're not apart of it, well, I guess you can do yourself a favor and
skip this movie. It's not for you. Howver, there is a small chance for
teenage guys and people who haven't read the books but are curious to
see this movie to like the film. Hello, I'm one of them so take that
risk if you will.

The love story presented in the movie has a timeless feel to it. I'm a
sentimental fellow so it's no surprise I was brought into it very
quickly. However, that doesn't mean the movie is flawless. There are
some moments in the film that is just downright cheesy and awkward.
Take this scene, for example: The first time Kristen Stewart and Robert
Pattinson meet each other is awkward, but this is probably a bad
example because I think it was supposed to be that way. There are some
lines in here that was also very awkward and cheesy. There's one about
heroine. You don't want to know. But apart from those flaws, the film
does a great job giving us a fantastic romance.

A high point in this film is, surprisingly, the performances by almost
everyone in the movie. Judging by the movie trailer, Kristen Stewart
and Robert Pattinson might give off some bad vibes but that's because
you're not watching the movie as a whole. Trust me, Kristen Stewart and
Robert Pattinson both give off some fantastic performances, not to
mention a great chemistry. The supporting cast also do a very great job
as well, for what they're given.

The music choices for this movie is very weird, but you'll get used to
it. It's a mix of rock and perhaps Gothic (I couldn't tell, exactly).
The direction by Catherine Hardwicke does a great job showing us some
fantastic views of nature. In total, I was swept away by four fantastic
sequences in the movie. I won't tell you because it'll ruin the
surprise. One thing that bothered me about this film was that, and it
may be just me, the film should've gotten a better distributer because
the film looks low budget compared to other film adaptations and it is
(a budget of about $37 million). I just wished that the film could've
gotten a more well known distributer so that it could've gotten a
bigger budget so the film would look less amateur and better special
effects. Like I said, it may be only me.

Overall, the film surprised me big time, surpassing way over my
expectations and probably some other people that are going to see it
too. If you're a fan of the books and/or a teenage girl, there's no
doubt you should see this movie. If you're not, you probably will not
like the movie, although there's still a small chance that this miracle
can happen. If you're one of those people who feels like it's the end
of the world because of this huge fan base and this huge success for
this movie, don't complain because we all know this movie isn't for you
so just stop whining that there will be an apocalypse. In the end, this
movie is basically a huge setup for the next three movies (hopefully,
they will get made) but that's not a bad thing because you get a great
romance with a fantastic showdown in the end. 8/10

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