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    Posted: December 03 2007 at 7:43am

Tomsmobr, please lighten up about "rip-offs." On almost every thread, you mention that some aspect of the film is a rip-off of another film. There are so many recycled ideas in the film industry that we don't need to make a case of it every time, much less make a case out of similar ideas movies share.

Response from Head RAZZberry: Actually, if you read his post, tomsmobr referred to Mr. Magorium as "a take-off of Willy Wonka." It was me who used the phrade "rip-off":

Originally posted by tomsmobr

I'm Glad The Head RAZZberry picked up also on MR. MAGORIUM character being a take off of Willy Wonka

Response from Head RAZZberry: I think instead of "take-off" you may actually have meant "rip-off"...

 

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I was watching a better movie starring Kermit the other day. That was "Emmet Otter's Jug Band Christmas". My 3 year old nephew Jim-Jim really liked it. Nice to see little kids liking classics.

Originally posted by Bombbot

Kermit, of all people, turns up in THIS?

Jim Henson must be rolling in his grave... Along with Dustin Hoffman's pride!

                                                                                                     
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I agree here, the number of good stories is limited. If you look at literature, there are so many good novels that are either "rip-offs" of the Bible or Classic (old Greek and Roman) literature. I don't find that necessarily bad. I mean does being a "rip-off" make "The Great Gatsby" a bad novel? Or "Life of Brian" a bad film?
What matters is how well the story itself is narrated, and this is actually where the variety lies. Literatary scholars will tell you that the most important stories have already been told. I am no scholar in this field, therefore I prefer to accept this opinion...   

Originally posted by jb razz

Tomsmobr, please lighten up about "rip-offs." On almost every thread, you mention that some aspect of the film is a rip-off of another film. There are so many recycled ideas in the film industry that we don't need to make a case of it every time, much less make a case out of similar ideas movies share.



Please, forgive my poor English. It's not my native language.
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Thank you, Queen_of_Toad. Someone finally agrees with me.
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Dustin Hoffman was the best part of HOOK, one of Steven Spielberg's weakest films, better than Robin Williams, Julia Roberts (Worst Supporting Actress RAZZIE nominee for that movie back in 1991) and Bob Hoskins. And now Dustin Hoffman in another bad movie with a past RAZZIE nominee? Yep, that's right there.
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I loved that you guys listed "Dustin Hoffman & Don King's Hair" as a Worst Screen Couple choice on the nominating ballot! But the choices this year are hard to narrow to just five picks in many categories -- Whatta "Berry" Rotten Year 2007 was at the movies!!

 

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I've gotta give credit where credit is due -- Hoffman and his "Don King hair" as a Screen Couple choice was submitted on this Forum by saturnwatcher, and I found it SO amusing that I added it to our Nominating Ballot just moments before taking it to the printer...

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This needs to be moved back to the 2007 titles.
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Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?I don't know.It all relies on the way he talked(a mix of BULLWINKLE and Jim Carrey in CABLE GUY),but whoever actor was casted had to talk that way.
 
I didn't know there could be a bad cameo,but there was one here.Kermit The Frog?!It made no sense!
 
The only reason I watch this was'cuz it was written and directed by Zach Helm,who also wrote my favorite dramedy:STRANGER THAN FICTION.You can actually notice his trademarks:The reference to KING LEAR and the chapter description was all about analyzin'literature.Also,the tide-ass non-believer who falls for the simplistic girl...B.T.W.,how come those 2 didn't end up together?
 
I guess people were right when they called him "the next Charlie Kauffman":They both failed on their directorial debuts.And that's because this guys are genious of writing fiction,but not on filmmaking itself.
 
Would you say Zach Helm is a sell-out?I mean,he went from writing a clever script that broke reality,to writing this kiddie script that couldn't be more predictable.
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Originally posted by Vits

Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?
Yes. We saw this film because the World Premier was in Denver. It was released close to Christmas, and free admission was offered to anyone who brought a new toy for donation to Toys For Tots. So we went. I'd give 100 toys to Toys For Tots if they could give me back the  hour and a half of my life I blew on this film.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Originally posted by Vits

Was Dustin Hoffman's performance bad?
Yes. We saw this film because the World Premier was in Denver. It was released close to Christmas, and free admission was offered to anyone who brought a new toy for donation to Toys For Tots. So we went. I'd give 100 toys to Toys For Tots if they could give me back the  hour and a half of my life I blew on this film.
And you know it's a Razzie movie when it makes Saturnwatcher want to take back his donations!
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Actually,I just checked.MR. MAGORIUM's way of talk and how he looked was all created by Dustin Hoffman.So it was a bad performance.
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Originally posted by Vits

Actually,I just checked.MR. MAGORIUM's way of talk and how he looked was all created by Dustin Hoffman.So it was a bad performance.
Overall, it was just a rip-off of Willy Wonka anyway.
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Originally posted by Vits

The only reason I watch this was'cuz it was written and directed by Zach Helm,who also wrote my favorite dramedy:STRANGER THAN FICTION.You can actually notice his trademarks:The reference to KING LEAR and the chapter description was all about analyzin'literature.Also,the tide-ass non-believer who falls for the simplistic girl...B.T.W.,how come those 2 didn't end up together?
 
I just checked:There's a deleted scene in which they kiss.Well,it wouldn't have changed the fact that the ending was too abrupt.
 
Originally posted by Vits

Would you say Zach Helm is a sell-out?I mean,he went from writing a clever script that broke reality,to writing this kiddie script that couldn't be more predictable.
 
Well...?
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Well, it doesn't really matter, it wasn't up for any Razzies and it's all but forgotten by audiences.
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I give this 3/10.
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