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Poll Question: Which Should We Include on The 31st RAZZIES Ballot?
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    Posted: August 16 2010 at 10:40am
In the SAG Awards, there are nominees for Best Ensemble/Cast. Here, I sense you'd nominate bad movies even if there's one or two good performances. You have already awarded well-reviewed movies with bad acting awards. Who says movies like INCEPTION, THE OTHER GUYS or SCOTT PILGRIM can't be nominated in acting categories, including "Worst Ensemble"?  
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Why not mock the SAG awards, too? I mean if you're going to use Worst Couple as an excuse to say EVERYONE on-screen sucked, you might as well make Worst Cast an official catagory, since Worst Couple seems more like an MTV Movie Award catagory (Best Duo Or Team) than an Oscar catagory...
 
Who says movies like INCEPTION, THE OTHER GUYS or SCOTT PILGRIM can't be nominated in acting categories,including "Worst Ensemble"? 
 

Because those movies (well, "Other Guys" might be an exception) didn't have bad performances from the entire casts. No one in "Inception" stunk up the screen and "Scott Pilgrim" just suffers from being on a caffine high.
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Those were just examples.And I said those could be nominated in individual acting categories.
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Yeah, but giving 5 actors or 5 actresses a collective nod as Worst Actor or Actress makes even less sense than calling an entire cast the Worst Couple...  
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Posts: 1127 		Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2010 at 3:49pm
Joint nominations for two similar movies is where I draw the line. I've asked plenty of times how they came up with the penalty for Worst Screen Couple, and asked if it had something to do with bad items showing up in pairs on screen back in the former half of 199X... and I never got an answer.  

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I assume your reference to "joint nominations for two similar movies" is regarding the MEET THE SPARTANS / EPIC MOVIE combo from our 29th year?? If you saw both movies (and I had the misfortune of doing so) you'd understand the argument that they were two very similar versions of the same, lame concept. And jointly nominating them seemed a way to immediately point at their they were...turds of a feather. 

As for the "inspiration" for Worst Screen Couple, it was taken in part from similar categories in the MTV Movie Awards and the fact that, in 1994, there were a plethora of really awful "screen couples" to choose from. 

FYI: For this year's 31st Annual RAZZIES, I am seriously considering replacing Worst Screen Couple with Worst Screen Ensemble / Worst Cast...  
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Originally posted by GTAHater767

FYI: For this year's 31st Annual RAZZIES, I am seriously considering replacing Worst Screen Couple with Worst Screen Ensemble / Worst Cast...  
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Originally posted by GTAHater767

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I assume your reference to "joint nominations for two similar movies" is regarding the MEET THE SPARTANS / EPIC MOVIE combo from our 29th year??
You mean DISASTER MOVIE?
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Posts: 4812 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2010 at 1:17pm
I just notice there's a movie called THE CITY OF YOUR FINAL DESTINATION starring Laura Linney and Anthony Hopkins.I know it can't get a forum because it didn't hit theaters,but it gave an idea:What if actors get nominated for one movie?If they get nominated for more,it shouldn't be conjoined.All of this is more Oscar-y.Then,you creat another category that awards actors that made bad choices by being in 2 or more bad movies each year.An example would be Mr. Hopkins for that movie and THE WOLFMAN.
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Originally posted by Vits

I just notice there's a movie called THE CITY OF YOUR FINAL DESTINATION starring Laura Linney and Anthony Hopkins.I know it can't get a forum because it didn't hit theaters,but it gave an idea:What if actors get nominated for one movie?If they get nominated for more,it shouldn't be conjoined.All of this is more Oscar-y.Then,you creat another category that awards actors that made bad choices by being in 2 or more bad movies each year.An example would be Mr. Hopkins for that movie and THE WOLFMAN.
Well, there was the entire year of 2003, in which Ben Affeck became incapable of appearing in a good movie, so he win Worst Actor not just for "Gigli", but every other movie he was in that year ("Paycheck", "Daredevil", etc.). In that case, yes, the actor should get nods for his entire body of work for that year. But again, if it's not in theaters, it's not going to be on Razzie ballot, hence why Hopkins would only get a nod for "Wolfman" and not this other movie you're sugguesting.
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Posts: 4812 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2010 at 5:01pm
I've thought about it, and I don't there should be "Worst Excuse for a Rom/Com" category. 5 movies will be nominated,right? Usually people complain when one they wanted didn't make the final cut. This time, when HeadRAZZ has to explain why one didn't make it, he won't be able to do so. Since all rom-coms are hated for the exact same reasons, there would be no way to choose, since they're all equally bad.
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The thing is, if we give rom-coms their own Razzie category, we might as well just call it "Worst Katherine Heigl Movie," since she stars in practically every one of them!
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Then perhaps I should've voted for "Worst Eye-Gouging Use of 3D".
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I'm serious, man. At least with past categories like "Worst Excuse for a Horror Movie" or "Worst Excuse for a Family Movie," you could tell the nominees apart.
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Can anyone seriously claim to tell one horror movie from another these days? They are all the same. Take a group of good-looking teenagers, add one serial killer in a mask and a weapon of choice,...killer then offs the teens one-by-one, until the last one or two teens stops him,...and end with a cliffhanger where the killer may or may not come back to life...repeat in sequel. 

Same formula Hollywood has used for the past 40 years!  
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You're describing slasher films. Horror movies can be different. Romantic comedies may change their plots, but the formula is always the same...  
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Yeah, but sadly, most horror movies these days use the "slasher formula," and the"rom/com formula" needs to change, too,  because it has gotten equally stale.
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