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    Posted: January 30 2010 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Michaels

"Spy Kids 3", "Driven", "Daylight", "Assassins", "The Specialist", "Cliffhanger", "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot",  "Rocky 2, 3, 4, & 5", "Cobra", "Lock Up", "Oscar", "Rhinestone", "Over The Top", "Tango & Cash", "Judge Dredd", "Rambo 2, 3, & 4".
Partially agree with those which are not Bold.... PARTIALLY.... because I think that those performances aren't great but VERY far from being as bad as every performances that the actors who I named gave to us...
 
And for the bold selections.... WHAT THE HELL???? Are you blind or something, do you even know what a bad performance is???? Honnestly, I don't think so!
 
Cobra is a cool movie in which Stallone is such a styly man and he gives to us such a very subtle performance!!! VERY far from being a bad performance.... By far better than any crappier performances that Arnold Schwarzenegger EVER gave to us!!! And this is just a medium performance by Sly, but very styly and subtle! Not a masterpiece, but by far better than every Schwarzenegger's movies except the first 2 Terminators which are the ONLY good Schwarzenegger's movies!
 
Over the Top is a touching movie and Sly gives to us a touching performance, I cannot even believe that is possible to bash him for this touching and inspiring movie in which Stallone plays a father who wants to have his son back!
 
I won't give my opinion for every movies I selected, but just try to make you understand why I think you've wrong!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TaRaN-RoD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2010 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Balboa6

  Then again coming from you, it's extremely difficult to take any kind of criticism seriously.
Totally agree!
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Guys, let tell you a little something about myself. I have spent a large time of my childhood watching movies, I took classes about film in school, I was the president of my college's film club, I made short films for that club and for local filmmakers, I have written a dozen screenplays, have watched the Oscars and Indie Spirit Awards each and every year that I can, and I the only TV I watch are movie channels like HBO, Encore, the Sundance Channel, the IFC Channel, Turner Classic Movies, and Starz. So I think I would know a good movie from a bad one, thank you very much.
 
Now, I understand that you guys love "Rocky 1". You doesn't? It's a entertaining movie, it's an inspiring movie, it's a classic movie. However, since then, Stallone's career has been one-note. In a role in which he plays a down on this luck, wannabe boxer without a bright future, I can understand why it would be okay for him to play a mumbling, look of confusion on his face at all times, simpleton. However, he seems to carry that same mumbling speech pattern and look of confusion into every other movie he did since then. And considering I listed 24 of his worst movies and out of those 24, you could only point out 10 good ones (or at least "not that bad" ones), that's not a good track record either, in fact, it looks kinda polarizing.
 
I have nothing against you guys or your opinions. But let's be real. Stallone is not the greatest actor to ever live, he's not on par with Robert De Niro. Sure, his movies might be "entertaining", but "entertaining" doesn't always mean "good". And I even agreed last year, when the Razzies were heavily considering Razzing Sly for the millionth time for "Rambo 4", I stepped in to said "Okay, guys, you Razzed him 10 times already. You should move on; you have bigger fish to fry". Sure enough, the Sly Guy didn't make it to the final round of that year.
 
So guys, I respect your opinions, but don't be going around saying that the rest of us don't know what we're talking about. We've either studied film all our lives or we currently work in film in some form or another. So I think we are going to know best about what a bad movie is, and that is why these awards exist in the first place. Thank you, and have a nice day. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote scoobs23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2010 at 12:44am
Here's a LINK to see a scene from F.I.S.T. on YouTube -- Perhaps you need a hearing aid?  

Originally posted by HeadRAZZBerry

You're actually going to argue F.I.S.T. is a good movie/performance?? When I saw it in a theatre in its original release, the audience founds Sly's mumbling delivery so confusing that there was one scene in which they all thought he was still speaking English, when in fact the dialogue was in Polish!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2010 at 8:59pm
Watched the clip -- I heard a lot of double negatives, and Stallone apparently trying to motivate people to ... punch other people out with their fists?  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote scoobs23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2010 at 12:35am
Eh...that's where watching the whole film helps a bit. Just an idea!  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2010 at 4:38am
The clip you linked to  isn't going to make anyone here scream "Oh my God, we were wrong, that performance was f***ing awesome!". Stallone fans, you're not going to win anyone over here. You'd sooner see Republicans voting "yes" to adding the public option to the health bill that they already universally rejected than see a Razzie member say Stallone is a good actor, outside of "Rocky 1" and "Copland".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote scoobs23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 8:16pm
The video was directed towards the poster I quoted.

I could care less whether or not your opinion will change or not. If it's all the same to you, I'd like to put down what I have to say on this topic, just as you did. I'm obviously of the minority on this board, and regardless of what either of us say, neither of us will change our views. We'll just end up going around in circles making this discussion pointless, which sounds like endless amounts of fun.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2010 at 8:25pm
Very well, then. Let's just say we'll leave it alone and agree to disagree. 

Originally posted by scoobs23

The video was directed towards the poster I quoted. 

I could care less whether or not your opinion will change or not. If it's all the same to you, I'd like to put down what I have to say on this topic, just as you did. I'm obviously of the minority on this board, and regardless of what either of us say, neither of us will change our views. We'll just end up going around in circles making this discussion pointless, which sounds like endless amounts of fun.
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Ok I will make my point: 
 
Sylvester Stallone, Leonardo DiCaprio, Dustin Hoffman, Joe Pesci, Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino and Tom Hanks are the greatest actors of all time! 
 
Christian Bale, Steven Seagal and Orlando Bloom are the worst actors of all time! 
 
So -- I'm right, you're wrong! 

End of debate! :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2010 at 12:25pm
That's really not a debate, that's a series of opinions. Bale is nowhere near the same level of bad acting as Seagal. As listed above, Bale has had at least three good roles -- Seagal has none.  
 
Frankly, I think all Stallone fans are just so blinded by their beloved memories of "Rocky" that they refuse to see that EVERYTHING else he has made has been hit or miss. But that's just my opinion.
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At least you admit that Seagal is such an awful actor!
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Oh come on! What am I going to defend Seagal with?  

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BHB is correct. You are stating opinions, not presenting a factual argument. Nonetheless, the point is highly debatable. Let's consider the names on your list:  
 
Stallone: a great actor based upon what? The first Rocky won an Oscar, almost certainly because the AMPAS voting system is mathematically flawed, as I have explained here on a few occasions. It is arguably one of the 3 or 4 worst movies ever to win Best Picture.  
  
Di Caprio: over-rated  
 
Dustin Hoffman: Outstanding (but not immune from making occasional stinkers)
 
Al Pacino: Ditto  
 
Tom Hanks: Very solid actor after a shaky start to his career. Probably not in the top 10 of all time. In fact, your entire list is biased to the past couple of decades, which makes it suspect.  
 
Christian Bale: Overall, a solid actor, several notches above Stallone...  
 
Orlando Bloom: Certainly not among the worst, and also well above Stallone talent wise.  
 
Steven Segal: Doesn't even qualify as an actor. Much like Stallone, he has played essentially the same character in every film in which he has appeared.  

Originally posted by TaRaN-RoD

Ok I will make my point: 
 
Sylvester Stallone, Leonardo DiCaprio, Dustin Hoffman, Joe Pesci, Robert DeNiro, Al Pacino and Tom Hanks are the greatest actors of all time! 
 
Christian Bale, Steven Seagal and Orlando Bloom are the worst actors of all time! 
 
So -- I'm right, you're wrong! 

End of debate! :)
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
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Post Options Post Options   Quote TaRaN-RoD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2010 at 4:21pm
???  
 
WTF??? You certainly don't know what you are talking about... If these actors are not in your top 10, I'm scared to know who is....
 
Just a question... are you blind or something? You certainly don't know what is an awful acting... But don't worry I have 2 solution for you... Buy yourself new glasses, or stop doing crack! ;)

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Since you are relatively new to our Forum (and English does not appear to be your native language) I am willing to cut you some slack -- But as a general rule, this Forum should not be considered a place to snipe at those with whom you disagree. In future, please refrain from personal attacks and insults, and limit your postings to discussion of the subject at hand...
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LOL, so right! :P Win!  

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Originally posted by TaRaN-RoD

At least you admit that Seagal is such an awful actor!
Oh come on, what am I going to defend him with?
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