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    Posted: June 24 2009 at 6:35am

Next Year's 82nd Annual Academy Awards®

to Feature TEN Best Picture Nominees 

Beverly Hills, CA (June 24, 2009) — The 82nd Academy Awards, which will be presented on March 7, 2010, will have 10 feature films vying in the Best Picture category, Academy Motion Picture Arts and Sciences President Sid Ganis announced today (June 24) at a press conference in Beverly Hills.

“After more than six decades, the Academy is returning to some of its earlier roots, when a wider field competed for the top award of the year,” said Ganis. “The final outcome, of course, will be the same – one Best Picture winner – but the race to the finish line will feature 10, not just five, great movies from 2009.”

For more than a decade during the Academy’s earlier years, the Best Picture category welcomed more than five films; for nine years there were 10 nominees. The 16th Academy Awards (1943) was the last year to include a field of that size; “Casablanca” was named Best Picture. (In 1931/32, there were eight nominees and in 1934 and 1935 there were 12 nominees.)

Currently, the Academy is presenting a bicoastal screening series showcasing the 10 Best Picture nominees of 1939, arguably one of Hollywood’s greatest film years. Best Picture nominees of that year include such diverse classics as “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,” “Stagecoach,” “The Wizard of Oz” and Best Picture winner “Gone with the Wind.”

“Having 10 Best Picture nominees is going allow Academy voters to recognize and include some of the fantastic movies that often show up in the other Oscar categories, but have been squeezed out of the race for the top prize,” commented Ganis. “I can’t wait to see what that list of ten looks like when the nominees are announced in February.”

The 82nd Academy Awards nominations will be announced on Tuesday, February 2. The Oscar® ceremony honoring films for 2009 will again take place at the Kodak Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center® in Hollywood, and will be televised live by the ABC Television Network.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LBSWebsite1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 8:39am
I think it's about time the Oscars have more competition out there now that
it's ten nominations! Especially for UP now that it has an excellent chance to
capture the ever elusive Best Picture nom, like Wall-E or The Dark Knight
never had. That's amazing!!!
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Good luck finding 10 good movies this year. It's a year too late after they decided to turn their backs to "Dark Knight", "Wall*E" and "The Wrestler". Does this mean we, too will add 5 more Worst Picture nods?

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: At this time, my answer would be "No." Among the downsides of the Academy's decision are that it dilutes the number of votes necessary to win the award -- And, having 10 titles competing for the top prize instead of just 5 also makes an already too-long ceremony (by having to introduce and show 5 additional Best Picture clips) even longer...

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 11:43am
We've had quite a few movies that have rated VERY high thus far this year.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2009 at 2:45pm
Ehh...a bit too late for the snubs of TDK and Wall-E, don't you think? Anyway, I'm hip to this news but they should've done it a year earlier. I hope this is an ongoing thing.
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I just pointed out that it's a year too late for when the Awards needed extra slots in Best Picture when they didn't even have the three highest praised movies of 2008 among the nods. I think a better idea would be divide the Best Picture catagory into Drama and Comedy like the Golden Globes do. You'd still have ten contenders in total...  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 3:57am
They added 5 slots because they intend to nominate The A-Team movie 10 times when it comes out.
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A "Mr. T Fact" perhaps?

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dEd Grimley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2009 at 11:40am
Ugh... let's not open THAT can of worms.
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The first thing that came to my mind, as Michaels pointed out, is how are they going to find 10 movies worthy of nomination. The second problem is one that I've noted before that will become more accute: The best picture is almost certain not to win, particularly if there is a fairly close race between 2 or 3 really good movies. Those films are going to split the vote and a much less well regarded film is probably going to win every year.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 3:02am

Here ate some possible Best Picture choices for 2009:


The Road
Nine
Public Enemies
UP
Shutter Island
The Lovely Bones
Avatar
Precious: Based on the Novel Push by Sapphire
Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea
The Invention of Lying

Honorable mention: Julie and Julia

And I don't get your second reason. If two or three movies are close to winning, wouldn't one of those three movies win, since people are voting for them and not for another undeserved or inferior movie? 


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The first thing that came to my mind, as Michaels pointed out, is how are they going to find 10 movies worthy of nomination. The second problem is one that I've noted before that will become more accute: The best picture is almost certain not to win, particularly if there is a fairly close race between 2 or 3 really good movies. Those films are going to split the vote and a much less well regarded film is probably going to win every year.

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Once again, moviewizeguy is engaging in behaviors he has endlessly (and falsely) criticized other Forum members for: Only one of the titles he listed above as supposed Best Picture contenders has even been released yet (let alone completed production). He can't possibly have seen even 10% of the films he is, in essence, endorsing as 2009's very best -- Pardon me for asking, but doesn't that consitute "pre-judging movies sight unseen"??

 

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RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I am disappointed (though not surprised) that moviewizeguy omitted from his list of possible Best Picture contenders the one 2009 film that is most analogous to last year's most blatantly over-looked title (and the film many people in the industry believe directly led to the new "10 Nominees" rule-- DARK KNIGHT).  I am speaking, of course, about the movie that is (as of this posting) both 2009's biggest-grossing movie and one of its best reviewed: STAR TREK.

FYI: Here is a LINK to see B.O. MoJo's list of 2009's top-grossers, and a LINK to check out Rotten Tomatoes' compilation of the year's highest critically-rated titles...

 

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It rather seems to me that if Hollywood has been engaged in several months of embarrased throat clearing over the fact that The Dark Knight  didn't get nominated for Best Picture, the remedy to the situation is to extensively review their nominating proceedures, not to adopt the National Hockey League model by permitting everyone who is still breathing at the end of the season to participate in the playoffs. Look for this format to end quickly when a couple of really bad movies end up winning the Oscar. Not that it hasn't already happened, but AMPAS is codifying a process that will guarantee it to occur regularly...  
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

If two or three movies are close to winning, wouldn't one of those three movies win, since people are voting for them and not for another undeserved or inferior movie?

Not necessarily. Consider this scenario: Movie A and Movie B are the front runners for the Oscar. Suppose that there are 100 voters. Of those 100, 28 people consider Movie A to the the best movie and Movie B to be the second best. Movie B is the favorie among 27 voters who regard movie A as second best.  Movie C has sort of a cult appeal which will get it a lot of votes, but the majority consider it a distant 3rd and almost nobody likes Nominees D or E that much. So, Movie A gets 28 votes. Movie B gets 27 votes...had either one of those not been in the running, it would have garnered all 55 or nearly all 55 of the votes cast.. However, Movie C pulls in 30 votes...less than a third of the total and well over half of the voters don't like it all that much...still, it manages to win Best Picture simply because two better movies split the vote and the other 15 votes are divided among D and E. I suspect that this precise scenario has played out at least twice before, and may have been a factor in both Rocky and The Greatest Show on Earth receiving Best Picture honors.

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I agree with what saturnwatcher said. If there's ten movies, chances are the catagory will be watered down to the point that the most deserving movie is not going to win at all. This is why I sugguested they divide the catagory into drama and comedy. That way, the most deserving drama can win, as well as a crowd pleasing blockbuster.

As for MWG's picks, most of which haven't even be released to the public, unless you can illlegal downloading, well much like the Joker from "TDK", MWG doesn't have a plan when it comes to posting on this board, he just does things.

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