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    Posted: September 29 2009 at 9:39am
Originally posted by Michaels

Yes, but again, what did the studio do? It made three sequels that were each dumber than the last. Slasher movies can hit a runhome once, but afterwards, they strike out. Why, because you can only carry a movie about people dying left and right for only so long ... one movie. After that, then it's just about what creative ways you can kill people off, ie. the "Saw" sequels.


I disagree. FD2 was smarter than FD1, to a point I almost was confused and couldn't get the movie until like my 5th viewing.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Well, smiling as in "Wow. That's the most beautiful decapitation I've ever seen in a movie!" kind of smile. The scenes play in slow motion and not bloody at all and you can see the beautiful faces thrown in the air.

I'm done with this discussion, but I wanted the above statement by mwg reposted as the point upon which I rest my entire case.

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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Originally posted by moviewizguy

Well, smiling as in "Wow. That's the most beautiful decapitation I've ever seen in a movie!" kind of smile. The scenes play in slow motion and not bloody at all and you can see the beautiful faces thrown in the air.
I'm done with this discussion, but I wanted the above statement by mwg reposted as the point upon which I rest my entire case.

Yeah, that comment really is game, set, and match in your favor.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I'm done with this discussion, but I wanted the above statement by mwg reposted as the point upon which I rest my entire case.


I don't get it...
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I'm done with this discussion, but I wanted the above statement by mwg reposted as the point upon which I rest my entire case.

I don't get it...

His whole arguement was that you don't find movie violence to be ugly and distrubing, rather you find it "beautiful" and entertaining.
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Movie violence can be a beautiful thing (in a way), or it can be a style over substance kinda thing.

It's like any art, it's a fine line. A "creative kill" can be a good thing when it serves a purpose, but again... very fine line. It's being crossed the majority of the time these days.
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Yeah, that's the thing. These days that line is being crossed so many times that it almost doesn't exist any more, and audiences are finding "creative kills" to be entertaining, if not funny. And that is what saturnwatcher and I disapprove of.
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Are you kiddin'?!BALLISTIC was bad,but not the worst of the decade!Luckily the worst of that year!
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Originally posted by Vits

Are you kiddin'?!BALLISTIC was bad,but not the worst of the decade!Luckily the worst of that year!

True. The Razzies' choices of "Battlefield Earth" and "Freddy Got Finered" are far worse. Although, "Transformers 2" was pretty s***y.
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BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2(#80),CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS(#58)and MASTER OF DISGUISE(#18)were funny!
 
YU-GI-OH:THE MOVIE(#68)made a mistake by bein'enjoyable for fans only,unlike POKEMON:THE FIRST MOVIE,but is far from bein'bad.
 
YOURS,MINE AND OURS(#63)wasn't very good.It came out the same year that CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2,and ev'ryone thought it was either a rip-off,or a lame money-makin'strategy.But is not worse than the ones from #64-100!
 
After I saw 88 MINUTES(#59)I thought it just had a bad endin',but after a lot of analyzin',I realize it could've been less slow-paced and more...whatever the word is to make Al Pacino pass from that so-so performance(which showed only the bad sides from his performance in S1M0NE)that made him seem high and/or drunk,to what we all know he can do.
 
BECAUSE I SAID SO(#56)had a few bad moments,and Diane Keaton's performance...wow!I think the director was so excited for workin'with her,but when he noticed the bad actin',he was afraid to speak up(like with Shirley MacLane's character in BEWITCHED).She shouldn't have done SMOTHER the same year,that's another reason why both movies floped.But all together,it's a good movie.Whenever is on T.V.,I try to watch the scene where DAPHNE accidentally puts porn on her computer.
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Originally posted by Vits

BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2(#80),CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS(#58)and MASTER OF DISGUISE(#18)were funny!
 

Sorry, dude, but those movies weren't even remotely funny at all. Not even so much as a chuckle, unless it's to laugh at how low the careers of Martin Lawerance, Tim Allen, and Dana ... whatever his name was have fallen.
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You're right,I said it wrong.
 
I don't know if Dana Carvey's impressions ability can be called good acting(if so,he's awesome),but he was berry funny.
 
BIG MOMMA'S HOUSE 2 wasn't as funny as the first one,but it was O.K.,especially since it had a more emotional endin'.
 
CHRISTMAS WITH THE KRANKS wasn't hilarious,but I di laugh a lil'.And it had the touchin'moments that make Christmas movies so great.
 
Anyway,none of these can be considered one.At least tell me that "C.W.T.K" can pass.
 
Dana Carvey's carrer didn't fall.After that movie,he just realized he prefered stand-up.
 
I thought Tim Allen's carrer fell in 2006 with the 3 family failures that earned him a Razzie nom..
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I forgot to mention the movies I think should be here:
-THE EDGE OF LOVE(2008).
-MULHOLLAND DR.(2001).
-ONCE(2006).

BOTTLE ROCKET(1996) and LOLITA(1962) are also in my "All-Time Worst" list,but can't be here,'cuz they're not from this decade.The same with PRINCESS(2008),but that's a TV movie,and UNA SEMANA SOLOS(2009),but that's from Argentina.
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Originally posted by Vits

I forgot to mention the movies I think should be here:
-THE EDGE OF LOVE(2008).
-MULHOLLAND DR.(2001).
-ONCE(2006).

BOTTLE ROCKET(1996) and LOLITA(1962) are also in my "All-Time Worst" list,but can't be here,'cuz they're not from this decade.The same with PRINCESS(2008),but that's a TV movie,and UNA SEMANA SOLOS(2009),but that's from Argentina.
"Edge of Love", never heard of it. "Mulholland Drive", it's a David Lynch movie, which means you need to be high to understand and/or enjoy it. "Once", never saw it. "Bottle Rocket", it was the first movie for Wes Anderson and the Wilson Bros., and it shows. "Lolita", old school movie, dated by today's standards, and is about a taboo subject that could rub people the wrong way.
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The movies you don't know,look'em up,and then come back,'cuz I'd really like to discuss them,and please tell me your list..

What you said'bout MULHOLLAN'DR. makes it seem like you didn't see it,but you've seen other Lynch movies.Nevertheless,I didn't like it for one simple fact:When a movie's ending has loose ends,that's fine,'cuz you have the rest of the movie as a reference to help you make up your own theories,but if the entire movie has scenes that make no sense,how can you know what they mean without a point of reference?

I hated that LOLITA but loved the one from 1997,'cuz that one was actually passionate.In the 1962 one,all they do is talk.Stanley Kubrick himself said that if he had known how the censorship was back then,he would've never make the movie.

BOTTLE ROCKET shows what?
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Actually, I just remembered, I have seen "Once". Yeah, I didn't care for it either. There's no real story to it, just filler in between each song. As I mention with any David Lynch movie, you have to high understand them, because they are usually random scenes that don't add up to anything. "Bottle Rocket" was the first movie of Wes Ander and Owen and Luke Wilson, and it showed how new they were to their craft because it could have been much better.

My all time least favorite movies are "Bongwater" and "Spun". Both movies are about drugs, both have ensemble casts of well known actors, both are made up of random scenes, and both are not even slightly entertaining in any way! I will not watch either of those two movies ever again for as long as I live!
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