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    Posted: January 25 2010 at 7:57pm
I am amazed that at least one member of our group isn't doing backflips and crowing over the entirely irrelevant fact that Avatar has now become  the "highest grossing film of all time." That particularly distinction has become so entirely meaningless I'm not sure why the numbers are taken all that seriously anymore. Factoring for inflation, the highest grossing film of all time is still, and will probably always be, Gone With The Wind.  I've never figured out why Hollywood doesn't track ticket sales instead of box-office gross, which is, over time, a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison.
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RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Actually, the other night on COLBERT REPORT they had the head of NBC Sports as their guest, and he said that NBC is actually expecting to lose money on this year's Winter Olympics -- To the tune of about $200 million.
I guess when you're "on a streak," you're "on a streak"!!     


Considering the expense of making Leno's new set, Conan's new set, marketing Leno's 10pm show, buying out Conan's contract, the new cost for Leno's next set, some of those "expensive" skits Conan made (faked, but the cost of playing the Rolling Stones, etc. actually cost something), the cost of the Olympics... Yea, it's gotta be close to $250-300m that GE's out within a very short span of time. That's actually pretty bad news for the economy. Bailout time!
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I am amazed that at least one member of our group isn't doing backflips and crowing over the entirely irrelevant fact that Avatar has now become  the "highest grossing film of all time." That particularly distinction has become so entirely meaningless I'm not sure why the numbers are taken all that seriously anymore. Factoring for inflation, the highest grossing film of all time is still, and will probably always be, Gone With The Wind.  I've never figured out why Hollywood doesn't track ticket sales instead of box-office gross, which is, over time, a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison.
That's easy, because the box-office gross looks like more money, thus it helps their arguement that they MUST spend $200-$300 million to make their epic blockbusters. As for "Gone With The Wind", when you factor inflation to any movie that over 70 years old, of course THAT movie is going to look like the biggest grosser.
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You also need to consider the fact that much more people went to the movies in those days than do today. Besides, when  Gone with the Wind  first premiered, it made more money (I think 30+ million) than many films earn today. I saw that it has so far made over 180 million in unadjusted gross, but I'm not sure how much of that was made after its initial release.
 
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I am amazed that at least one member of our group isn't doing backflips and crowing over the entirely irrelevant fact that Avatar has now become  the "highest grossing film of all time." That particularly distinction has become so entirely meaningless I'm not sure why the numbers are taken all that seriously anymore. Factoring for inflation, the highest grossing film of all time is still, and will probably always be, Gone With The Wind.  I've never figured out why Hollywood doesn't track ticket sales instead of box-office gross, which is, over time, a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison.
That's easy, because the box-office gross looks like more money, thus it helps their arguement that they MUST spend $200-$300 million to make their epic blockbusters. As for "Gone With The Wind", when you factor inflation to any movie that over 70 years old, of course THAT movie is going to look like the biggest grosser.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

. Factoring for inflation, the highest grossing film of all time is still, and will probably always be, Gone With The Wind.  I've never figured out why Hollywood doesn't track ticket sales instead of box-office gross, which is, over time, a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison.


Because money is more important than anything else to Hollywood.
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Well, for 11 months out of the year, yes, "money is more important than anything else to Hollywood." For the one other month, all that is important to H-Wood are the Oscars. Case in point: the Writer's Guild strike just HAD to end by the time the Oscars came around!
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The only relevant way to measure movies against each other is by considering ticket sales, rather than box-office gross. It is ridiculous to say that such and such a movie made $100 million in 2009 when tickets cost 10 bucks each and suggest that in some sense it outpeformed a movie that made $40 million in 1975 when tickets cost $3. Clearly, but any rational system of measure, the 1975 film did considerably better. In the same sense, Gone With the Wind has not only outperformed every move made since, it has outperformed most of them by a lot. I suspect that if box-office receipts had been accurately recorded back in the late teens and early twenties of the last century, Charlie Chaplins films would have blown everything away.

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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

The only relevant way to measure movies against each other is by considering ticket sales, rather than box-office gross. It is ridiculous to say that such and such a movie made $100 million in 2009 when tickets cost 10 bucks each and suggest that in some sense it outpeformed a movie that made $40 million in 1975 when tickets cost $3. Clearly, but any rational system of measure, the 1975 film did considerably better. In the same sense, Gone With the Wind has not only outperformed every move made since, it has outperformed most of them by a lot. I suspect that if box-office receipts had been accurately recorded back in the late teens and early twenties of the last century, Charlie Chaplins films would have blown everything away.
Then you're really going to hate it that everyone is shouting from the highest mountains about how "Avatar" is now the highest grossing movie worldwide.
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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

I am amazed that at least one member of our group isn't doing backflips and crowing over the entirely irrelevant fact that Avatar has now become  the "highest grossing film of all time."

I hope you're not talking about me. But if you insist, yes, I'm very happy it has made a lot of $$$, unadjusted, of course.
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What I like about Avatar making as much as it did is that it helps push Titanic that much farther from everyone's memory. I really hated Titanic.
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The fact that it has pushed Titanic out of the number one spot is the only bright spot. However, Avatar has benefited enormously not just from average ticket prices higher than Titanic, but the fact that a huge portion of it's total box-office has come from 3D ticket sales which are almost twice as high. It is just a completely preposterous means of comparison.
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Couldn't agree with you more, dEd! I, too "really hated Titanic."
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How the hell can you hate Titanic?!!!!! It's the perfect movie!!!
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Guys may have Titanic, but women sure did love it...
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Titanic was the furthest thing from a pefect movie. It was just the most over-produced "chick flick" ever made, and the only reason it made as much money as it did was because of 14 year old girls drooling over Leo De-crap-io!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 6:42pm

I didn't think Titanic was a bad movie, but there were about a dozen movies from 1997 that were better... 

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