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    Posted: January 29 2009 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

What I meant was if you attack The Pink Panther 2, the news is bound to get out to the public (via the LA Times or another paper that watches you) and people are gonna lose respect for you (the same thing happened to the Movie Preview Critic).  You guys have a complete disregard for the moviegoing community, no hope, no emotions, no moralities, no concept of emotion, no appreciation for cinematic achievement, and nothing to back up your consensus on some films.  Besides, if it makes a lot of money and few other bad films come around (I know some I'm dreading), it'll probably get snubbed. 

After your awards show, I will take a leave of absense and possibly leave you cautions and warnings of future films between that time and the time a true Razzie contender (something I'm almost certain will get nominated) comes around.

Dude, seriously, if you don't like the way we do things, just LEAVE. Don't give us this "I'm going to go away after this year's awards and I won't come back until I find a movie worth bashing" nonsense. Just leave. We're going to keep on bashing movies, some of which will actually win awards, most of which won't. If you can't take us bad mouthing a few movies you might be interested in, just don't hang around here. Common sense.

And a little tidbit of information, "Pink Panter 1" didn't make its budget back until AFTER it was on DVD. In the middle of Feburary, an equally bad money making movie month like Janurary, movies rarely make over $100 in theaters alone, so don't keep your hopes up of "PP2" being the first blockbuster of the year. And I don't know who lost respect for Movie Preview Critic, either than you maybe, because his YouTube site gets viewers in the hundreds on a daily basis and very few of his videos are under 4 or 5 star rates. 

And Steve Martin rehashing something that's been done six times before him is a "cinematic achievement"?! We at the Razzes don't ask for much. We simply want to see money be invested in movies with hope, emotions, and moralities, not something that was thrown together to make a fast buck. We don't give into the great American hype machine that is H-Wood, we can spot a subpar product once we get past the glitter they throw on it.

You seem to get bent out of shape about us making a few tongue-in-cheek jokes about movies, but in the end, the ones that get nods are the ones you agree with, so I don't see what you have to worry about what it is we do. If you don't like it, just leave. It's that simple.

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I didn't say I didn't like what you were doing, I was just warning you about what might happen.  Each week, you seem to pan the two films you see as the worst ones coming out.  In the case of next week, He's Just Not That Into You and Push were the ones that made me shudder.

But enough about that, let's get to the movies out right now.  Remember when I said that January looked so tainted that any of the wide-release films coming out could be Razzie prospects?  None of the films that came out this month have topped 60% on RT Critics rating (which suggests that maybe I was right).  The RT Community on the other hand gave Fresh ratings to 9 of the 12 films that came out in January (Bride Wars, The Unborn, and The Uninvited do not have Fresh ratings).  Here's how the RT Critics ranked January's films best to worst:

1. My Bloody Valentine 3D
2. Taken
3. Notorious
4. Hotel for Dogs (tie)
4. Not Easily Broken (tie)
6. The Uninvited
7. Inkheart
8. Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
9. Paul Blart: Mall Cop
10. The Unborn
11. Bride Wars
12. New in Town

Here's the RT Community's ranking of January's films:

1. Taken
2. Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
3. My Bloody Valentine 3D
4. Notorious
5. Inkheart
6. Not Easily Broken
7. Hotel for Dogs (tie)
7. New in Town (tie)
7. Paul Blart: Mall Cop (tie)
10. Bride Wars
11. The Uninvited
12. The Unborn

And here's the rankings when you combine the two:

1. Taken
2. My Bloody Valentine 3D
3. Notorious
4. Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
5. Not Easily Broken
6. Inkheart
7. Hotel for Dogs
8. The Uninvited
9. Paul Blart: Mall Cop
10. New in Town
11. Bride Wars
12. The Unborn

And there you have it.  It's been a dismal month for critics, but a decent month for regular moviegoers.  There's still room for improvement, but there are a few other bad ones on the horizon.

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Keep in mind critics and moviegoers are two totally different animals. Critics are usually people in their 30s, 40, 50s, etc. They are being paid to see these movies, and they have seen many, MANY movies to prepare to be a professional critic. Moviegoers are usually in their teens, they care only about horror movies, gross-out comedy, or action movies. And they are only going to have a good time if anything else. While a critic seeing a movie for the quality, moviegoers are just going for fun. So they are going to give the same movies very different reviews. Feburary is next week, and the trend of the worst movies of the year will go on. We'll see how they will fair.

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To me, I can't wait for Taken. That looks like it could achieve all the goals of a spunky, fast-paced actioner that Transporter 3 failed to accomplish. Liam Neeson's even getting rave ratings, so I'm there.

By the way, I think MiguelAntilisu means well. He isn't moviewizguy who thinks all movies we trash are better than they look. Hell, me and him (and several YouTubers who made honorary videos) agree that the Disney Channel and anything from there is real sh*t (read my rant on the previous page about why I think so).

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I see your point, but some moviegoers (like myself) will see anything.  I'm going to guess that three new titles will be highlighted next week (one's a bizarre romantic comedy, one's a revival, and one's Star Wars, Jumper, and Heroes clumped into one).

Originally posted by Michaels

Keep in mind critics and moviegoers are two totally different animals. Critics are usually people in their 30s, 40, 50s, etc. They are being paid to see these movies, and they have seen many, MANY movies to prepare to be a professional critic. Moviegoers are usually in their teens, they care only about horror movies, gross-out comedy, or action movies. And they are only going to have a good time if anything else. While a critic seeing a movie for the quality, moviegoers are just going for fun. So they are going to give the same movies very different reviews. Feburary is next week, and the trend of the worst movies of the year will go on. We'll see how they will fair.

 

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Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

I'm going to guess that three new titles will be highlighted next week (one's a bizarre romantic comedy, one's a revival, and one's Star Wars, Jumper, and Heroes clumped into one).

That would be yep, yep, and yep. Although I don't see how "Stars Wars" fits in, it's mostly "Jumper" meets "Heroes".

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Originally posted by Michaels


That would be yep, yep, and yep. Although I don't see how "Stars Wars" fits in, it's mostly "Jumper" meets "Heroes".



I think he's trying to say that Chris Evans has the acting talent of Chewbacca.
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I actually though Chris Evans (and Michael Chiklis), to some extent, made the Fantastic Four series watchable. It was top-notch casting, but it was ruined by Jessica Alba.
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by Michaels


That would be yep, yep, and yep. Although I don't see how "Stars Wars" fits in, it's mostly "Jumper" meets "Heroes".



I think he's trying to say that Chris Evans has the acting talent of Chewbacca.

Actually, what I meant was that some of those people have Jedi-like powers.

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Miguel, Miguel, Miguel...I've been trying to take it easy on you of late, but you just keep serving yourself up on a silver platter.

The first Pink Panther remake was a stinker. It was poorly conceived; what moron really thought anyone could play the role better than Peter Sellers. The first one was pretty much of a flop at the box-office as anyone with half a brain could have forcast...so what did the braintrust in Hollywood do in reaction? They made another one, and it will almost certainly be just as bad.

Now, I ask you...which would be the greater sin? Should we ignore it no matter how bad it is out of some ridiculous fear that our attention might provoke bad reaction from the L.A. Times...as if anyone here gives a rat's ... or should we maintain the integrity and purpose of this organization by calling a stinking fish a stinking fish? We've covered this before...Steve Martin is one of the greatest standup comedians of all time. His filmography has been a mixed bag, of late, more often than not bad. Probability is, the upcoming PP2 will further that trend.

If we are wrong, I guarantee you, we will fess up to it.

 

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I looked at synopses for each of the two films and found that I was dealing with two different plots.  Then I looked at the film series on Wikipedia and I made an important discovery: the 2006 film, The Pink Panther, was not and was never meant to be a remake of the original.  Instead, it was "a new starting point for a comtemporary series introducing the Clouseau and Dreyfus characters along with the famous diamond to a new generation."  The critics however, misinterpreted the film as a remake and that didn't end well.

By the way, where are the forums for He's Just Not That Into You and Push?

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Well, those powers are called telepathy and telekinesis, and they have been staples of sci-fi LONG before "Star Wars" came to be. In fact, they were powers in the original X-Men comic books, which pre-dates "Star Wars" by a decade. So if anything, this movie is "X-Men" meets "Jumper" meets "Heroes". Now, if they add in light sabers, yes, then "Star Wars" comes into play.

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Actually, what I meant was that some of those people have Jedi-like powers.

 

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PP2 is a remake from the standpoint that they are essentially taking a formula that was done well for a while (and eventually overdone) then simply recasting it to make the same type of film in a grossly inferior fashion. Steve Martin is, in his way a talented guy -- but he isn't Peter Sellers. The simple fact that anyone in Hollywood thought that relaunching this classic series was a good idea is simply a reflection of the laziness and lack of creativity that currently haunts the movie industry....and provides us with a wealth of riches.

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

I looked at synopses for each of the two films and found that I was dealing with two different plots.  Then I looked at the film series on Wikipedia and I made an important discovery: the 2006 film, The Pink Panther, was not and was never meant to be a remake of the original.  Instead, it was "a new starting point for a comtemporary series introducing the Clouseau and Dreyfus characters along with the famous diamond to a new generation."  The critics however, misinterpreted the film as a remake and that didn't end well.

By the way, where are the forums for He's Just Not That Into You and Push?

 

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There's worse yet to come, but it may get nominated for something.

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As has previously been noted several times, only a small percentage of the movies discussed on this forum ever get nominated for anything.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MiguelAntilsu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 11:19am
I know that.  I'll come back with the movie trailers I saw during the Super Bowl and give you my first impressions.
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