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    Posted: May 02 2009 at 1:34am
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Ummmm... Teacher's are hardly safe for that metaphor either. That is, if she's hot and has emotional issues and your sense of being a "bad boy" has hit its peak by age 13. You know, those children who don't really mind being molested.


Safer then a priest... Heck, I'd probably trust my kid with a mass-murderer, or Michael Bay before I trusted my kid anywhere near a priest...Not that I actually have a kid or anything...
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I'm pretty sure Michael Bay is a reassigned priest. From the church of Satan, perhaps. He's certainly made some sort of deal with the devil.
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Don't you find it funny that this film was like 9% on RT the first day and Wolverine was 100% on the first day. Now the former has a 32% and the latter has a 36%.
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These things have a way of balancing themselves out, but I still would like to point out that the positives for GoGFP read something like this:

* As a romcom, it's average, but as a Matthew McConaughey romcom, it's above average. If you're a low-expectations moviegoer, this one might surprise you.

* In a movie as spiritless and stupid as this, you can't help but look for clues you've hit bottom.

* Ghosts of Girlfriends Past doesn't do Dickens any favors, but in a year that brought us Bride Wars, it'll do.

* Ghosts of Girlfriends Past might be one of the most unoriginal films ever made, but it works anyway.

* Comfort zones don’t come much plusher than the one habitually occupied by Matthew McConaughey, who must read the words “arrogant, torso-flaunting alpha male” in script synopses and think: “That’ll do.”

There are a few nicer ones, but ultimately you'll pick up a lot of backhanded compliments.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Don't you find it funny that this film was like 9% on RT the first day and Wolverine was 100% on the first day. Now the former has a 32% and the latter has a 36%.

No, because you are making the same mistake I called you on before: You are drawing assumptions based upon data sets that are too small to draw valid conclusions. You can't really spot legitimate trends until at least 30 or so reviews are posted. Ten or 12 just isn't a large enough data set.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Don't you find it funny that this film was like 9% on RT the first day and Wolverine was 100% on the first day. Now the former has a 32% and the latter has a 36%.

No, because you are making the same mistake I called you on before: You are drawing assumptions based upon data sets that are too small to draw valid conclusions. You can't really spot legitimate trends until at least 30 or so reviews are posted. Ten or 12 just isn't a large enough data set.

You take things too seriously now. I'm not saying that because I'm assuming. I'm saying that because I find it funny because two seemingly polar-reacted films would end up in almost the same rating. I thought that was apparant. And what are you saying? Both of the films have more than 30 reviews...
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They do now. At the point where there was a significant discrepancy in their numbers, there were comparatively few reviews for either. Admittedly I don't have the first clue as to what "polar-reacted" means, but based upon early buzz, I don't find it surprising that these two films are garnering similar critical reaction, in effect, both are generating mostly negative responses. However you may wish to spin it, there simply is no conclusion to be drawn from the fact that in the early going with very few reviews posted, there was a wide difference between their R.T. scores, or that their respective scored ended up similar; unless you wish us to come to the astonishing conclusion that a large percentage of professional film critics are just as apt to dislike a bad action film as they are to dislike a bad chick flick.
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

These things have a way of balancing themselves out, but I still would like to point out that the positives for GoGFP read something like this:

* As a romcom, it's average, but as a Matthew McConaughey romcom, it's above average. If you're a low-expectations moviegoer, this one might surprise you.

* In a movie as spiritless and stupid as this, you can't help but look for clues you've hit bottom.

* Ghosts of Girlfriends Past doesn't do Dickens any favors, but in a year that brought us Bride Wars, it'll do.

* Ghosts of Girlfriends Past might be one of the most unoriginal films ever made, but it works anyway.

* Comfort zones don’t come much plusher than the one habitually occupied by Matthew McConaughey, who must read the words “arrogant, torso-flaunting alpha male” in script synopses and think: “That’ll do.”

There are a few nicer ones, but ultimately you'll pick up a lot of backhanded compliments.


I'm still looking for the review that says "Well, at least I survived through the film... I think that's a plus" or perhaps "I didn't want to drive railroad spikes through both my eyes afterward, just the left eye would do." Or how about "The opening credits looked decent, but my wife started to choke before the movie really got started, so I had to leave."
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I think MWG was just pointing out that because the earliest reviews of Wolverine were so favorable, it's funny that it's now ranked at the about the same level as what's undoubtedly one of the stupidest looking movies in all of history. (Actual scores be damned... This move looks like it deserves single digits.) And to be honest, I kind of agree. It is funny that Wolverine has fallen over 60% since the beginning... That the earliest reviews were ALL positive, and now that's nearly completely inverted.
But I also entirely agree with you in that you can't definitively judge something without having a thorough and comprehensive data set to work with... Whether it be RT reviews, or how well a US president is actually doing based on his first three months in office (*Ahem to both parties*).
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Why? Could you tell me this? Of all people, I'm the one that doesn't judge movies by their trailers (well, sometimes, I do, but you get my point). And it's funny that you say that, since there's one particular user here who does judge movies because of low ratings on RT.
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

But I also entirely agree with you in that you can't definitively judge something without having a thorough and comprehensive data set to work with... Whether it be RT reviews, or how well a US president is actually doing based on his first three months in office (*Ahem to both parties*).


Why would you tell me this? Of all people, I'm the one that don't judge movies on their trailers (well, sometimes, I do, but you get my point). And it's funny that you say that, since there's one particular user here who does judge on movies because of low ratings on RT.



And once again, the Point just SAUNTERS right past him... What an egotistical jerk that Point is...

The point was that if one person tells you a movie was good, that doesn't mean it's good. If 10 people do, who have at least slightly different tastes or backgrounds, then you might actually be on to something.
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And once again, the Point just SAUNTERS right past him... What an egotistical jerk that Point is...

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One of these days someone will teach The Point some damned manners, and possibly surgically remove the stick from his ass. Until that day comes, I shall shun The Point like there is no tomorrow! Shun....Shun....SHUUUUUUUUUUN!!
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I heard he was engaged to that Seńora Obvious, but somehow I feel like he'd be settling.
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by moviewizguy


Why would you tell me this? Of all people, I'm the one that don't judge movies on their trailers (well, sometimes, I do, but you get my point). And it's funny that you say that, since there's one particular user here who does judge on movies because of low ratings on RT.



And once again, the Point just SAUNTERS right past him... What an egotistical jerk that Point is...

The point was that if one person tells you a movie was good, that doesn't mean it's good. If 10 people do, who have at least slightly different tastes or backgrounds, then you might actually be on to something.

I think we're talking about two different things.
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Originally posted by dEd Grimley

I heard he was engaged to that Seńora Obvious, but somehow I feel like he'd be settling.

Seńora Obvious is a nice girl. Sometimes the things she says seem a little pointless, but she means well. I don't think he'd be settling at all.

 
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Originally posted by dEd Grimley

Originally posted by moviewizguy


Why would you tell me this? Of all people, I'm the one that don't judge movies on their trailers (well, sometimes, I do, but you get my point). And it's funny that you say that, since there's one particular user here who does judge on movies because of low ratings on RT.


And once again, the Point just SAUNTERS right past him... What an egotistical jerk that Point is... The point was that if one person tells you a movie was good, that doesn't mean it's good. If 10 people do, who have at least slightly different tastes or backgrounds, then you might actually be on to something.


I think we're talking about two different things.



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