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    Posted: June 19 2012 at 6:56am
You're right. IMDB didn't list the nominees for Worst Ensemble because... well... too many names!
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Sandler actually has six. Worst Actor '99 for Big Daddy and Worst Actor, Actress, Screenplay, Screen Couple, and Ensemble '11 for Jack & Jill.
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Stallone has won 10, while Sandler has won 5.
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I lost track of all of Adam Sandler's "wins" that I'm beginning to suspect he might have surpassed da gas bag known as Stallone...
Comparing Uwe Boll's movies to a sack of horse manure will only get you sued by every fertilizer company in existence...
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I am inclined to disagree...2005 was a much more necessary time to release it. I doubt that it would get that much more attention today.
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That's the thing, I think 2005 was just the wrong year for that movie to be released. If it were released today, it would have gotten more notice for the reasons stated above, since it speaks even more loudly today.
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The stakes where higher than that in the time period this movie is portraying. They were again in 2005 and still are now. Most of the country just hasn't figured that out yet. But we have a considerable portion of the population that claims to hate and distrust government, yet allows themselves to be spoon fed by the PR arm of one political party (despite the fact that they also claim to hate and distrust the press). It was an important movie. Too bad more people didn't see it and really think about the message.
 
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Originally posted by Michaels

Really? I just saw it a high profile docu-drama and not much else. Sure, it was a nice little reminder of whe

n the news actually challenged the government, rather than be its PR service, but I didn't consider it a Best Picture winner.
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Really? I just saw it a high profile docu-drama and not much else. Sure, it was a nice little reminder of when the news actually challenged the government, rather than be its PR service, but I didn't consider it a Best Picture winner.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: So what would you have designated as 2005's Best Picture??  
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Posts: 2577 		Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2011 at 6:17pm
I would agree with Head Razz that Goodnight and Goodluck should have won Best Picture in 2005. It is one of the most underrated films of the past decade or so, imho. 
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Yeah, all the past winners' reasons have been listed above. "Hurt Locker": gotta give Best Director to a woman, "Departed": gotta give Scorsese his long awaited props. "Crash": there's no gay cowboys there. In other words: politics.

And I'm not saying those were bad movie that didn't deserve to win, I'm just saying that they won for the wrong results. And no saturnwatcher, it wasn't because anyone was given "gifts" for their votes (although I'm sure it has happened in the past, but like I said, not to all 7000 members, just even to get the vote to swing in your direction).
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Crash winning goes beyond that... It shouldn't even been the runner up for Best Picture...
It shouldn't even have been nominated (it wasn't even nominated for the Globes)...

The film is bad... It has all the depth of a melodramatic television movie....
And it calls itself a anti-racism movie but meanwhile depicts Asians and Arabs as uneducated stereotypes... I was recently flipping through the channels and saw that Crash was on TV....
I tried rewatching, but I just couldn't... It's very unpleasent to watch...

Originally posted by Vits

Again...how many people are against CRASH mainly because they think the Oscars are homofobes?


As for The Departed... It's a decent and well made movie...
But it just feels very inferior when you put it next to Infernal Affairs....
I know someone who isn't even willing to watch it, because he liked the original that much...
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I would've been happier if the Oscar results had been like the Globes: Best Picture for BABEL, and Best Director for Scorsese. 

Originally posted by Michaels

Oh yeah, "Babel" should have won, but that was the "Okay, we need to finally give Martin Scorsese his Best Director Oscar that we have been denying him for decades now!" year and Best Picture went along with it.
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Yeah, that was the year of  "we might get heat for giving Best Picture to a movie about gay cowboys, so let's go with the safer bet and give it to the movie about racism." I don't hate "Crash," but I wouldn't call it the Best Picture of that year...    

Originally posted by Grounder the Critic

I thought Crash was lame. And I agree that the Oscar thing with Crashwas a joke.
 


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: I may be setting off a hornet's next of angry discussion here, but here's a LINK to the 2005 Oscar nominees on IMDb and, I have to say, having seen four of the five Best Picture nominees, I would've picked CAPOTE or GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK over either CRASH or BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. 

Out of curiosity, I also went to RT and checked the ratings for all five 2005 Best Picture nominees, and with 76% favorable (LINK) CRASH had a lower total than GOOD NIGHT & GOOD LUCK's 94% (LINK), CAPOTE's 90% (LINK) BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN's 87% (LINK) or even MUNICH's 78% (LINK)... 
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Oh yeah, "Babel" should have won, but that was the year of "Okay, we need to finally give Martin Scorsese his Best Director Oscar that we have been denying him for decades now!" and Best Picture just went along with it.  


RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Actually, Best Director is voted on (in the nominating process, at least) only by AMPAS members in the directing branch -- but Best Picture is the one category on which every voting member casts their ballot. So the pool from which each list of nominees was culled is not the same one. Thus, suggesting that "Best Picture just went along with it" is technically not a correct assessment of how Oscar voting works...  
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Again...how many people are against CRASH mainly because they think Oscar voters are homophobes?
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I thought Crash was lame. And I agree that the Oscar thing with Crash was a joke.
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