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BurnHollywoodBurn 
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 Topic: No Blood ’n’ Guts...No Vainglory!Posted: August 21 2010 at 2:23pm |
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Yeah, if you want to see a "Rambo" movie (keyword: IF), you see "First Blood"...and then stop there.
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I'm BurnHollywoodBurn, and what I wrote above is my opinion. However, if you are a true fan of good movies, it should also be yours.
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moviewizguy
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Posted: August 20 2010 at 9:50pm |
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I've never seen a Rambo film in my life (although I own the 2nd film on DVD), but I was
interested in seeing the most recent one because of the highly positive
reactions from the fans of the series. I liked the way the film started
off but it was gets boring after awhile. Stallone's performance was
also really unconvincing maybe because of his weird face. The only thing
I liked was the action finale which was really exciting. Other than
that, it was meh. And that blond woman was soooo stupid. 5/10
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TaRaN-RoD
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Posted: January 16 2010 at 8:47pm |
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This movie is a masterpiece, I'm sorry, but Sly did a great job!
Thank you to not have nominated it to any of your Razzie Awards! |
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saturnwatcher
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Posted: January 11 2009 at 1:01pm |
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We'll survive...I promise. |
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Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
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Michaels
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Posted: January 11 2009 at 11:46am |
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Hey man, I'm all against the razzing Stallone just for the sake of razzing Stallone thing, too. But hey, if he gets enough votes, there's really nothing that can be done. The people will have spoken...
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moviewizguy
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Posted: January 11 2009 at 11:25am |
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Ok...I'm trying to warn you guys now but many, MANY, MANY people are hating the guts out of you guys for having put this film up for every category. Some have even said "Some time in the future, the Razzies should nominate themselves." I will not get involved in this. But I'll enjoy seeing the war take place!
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razziesucks
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Posted: January 11 2009 at 3:31am |
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That isn't meant to be symbolic or a mentality Stallone wants to think of, it's character development. Rambo has come to terms with what he is, a killer that it. |
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Michaels
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Posted: September 13 2008 at 11:54am |
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The Movie Preview Critic talks about the de-evolution of the Rambo character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtjpSQbE8Fo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj7c-n7vhyM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rife18JCyOs Overall, it was a common case of Hollywood taking a some what good idea and turning it into a cartoon in order to make it a commerical success. |
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saturnwatcher
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Posted: July 28 2008 at 3:23pm |
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Allow me to welcome you as well Witchkiller. I suppose I could probably agree with you if this were the only Rambo flick. However, Stallone has established a context. As much as anything, I strongly object to the glorification of violence and the graphic presentation thereof. The whole notion of "every problem is a nail and I'm one bada$$ hammer" is precisely the kind of mentality we human folk need to leave behind pronto.
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Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
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HeadRAZZBerry
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Posted: July 27 2008 at 8:07am |
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Welcome to our Forum, witchkiller! And, I feel compelled to ask (if I may) -- What's the significance of your chosen Forum Name?? |
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Ye Olde Head RAZZberry
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witchkiller
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Posted: July 27 2008 at 6:20am |
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First post here, been lurking for some time though.
Anyway, I think you guys are really reading too far into this flick. I haven't read any Sly interviews on the subject, so I don't know if he was trying to foster patriotism or not. I can only post what I remember of the film. This guy Rambo, he's a killer. To the man with a hammer, every problem is a nail, so he kills. He takes some jackass missionaries into a hostile environment, they get captured, he rescues them, and leaves a lot of men red and ruined on the way. I didn't see it as Rambo blasting guys for being Buddhists, or Asians or in the name of Bush. It was just a killer driven to kill. And for my fellow veterans out there, maybe an 'excuse,' to kill. Anyway, it's no Oscar sure, but it's also not some New World Order Neo-Con's attempt to push the final solution forward either. -Rocco |
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saturnwatcher
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 10:13am |
I never suggested it does. I don't think we have to go far past current events and the recent adventurism of this nation to provide an example of how it does not. However, if you happen to be a soldier conscripted by a particular nation, your options are decidedly limited at the point in which your superiors order you into harms way. You can follow orders, make a run for it and risk a firing squad, or eliminate the effort of the running part and simply defy orders which will generally yield the same result. John Rambo was a mercenary who had a choice in the matter. The people he was blowing to pieces didn't. Incidentally, the "innocent people" he was austensibly defending had a choice of not involving themselves in the matter either, and the conflict into which they were imposing themselves was so poorly defined in the movie that there was no reason to assume they were actually acting nobly. |
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Michaels
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 2:55am |
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Keep in mind "slasher movie" usually translates into "killer in a mask murdering stupid, horny, drunk teenagers in over-the-top and impossible ways". Now granted, Rambo is killing people in over-the-top ways, but to protect innocent people, not because that's how he gets his jollies. Plus, does even "fighting under a country's flag" actually justify killing people?
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saturnwatcher
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 3:45pm |
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Actually, one would be rather hard pressed to really put Rambo IV into the war movie genre, because it isn't like he is a soldier fighting under the flag of his country. He is just a mercenary slaughtering people in an undefined context. In a sense, it is almost more closely related to a slasher flick. I'll probably get flamed for that comparison, but intellectually, it isn't that far afield.
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Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
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Michaels
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 2:59am |
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But keep in mind, Rambo is a war movie, so of course it will have over the top violence because that is what happens in wars.
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ITbeast
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 5:13am |
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I agree with Saturnwatcher, I think what Stallone did with Rambo IV alone out did anything Boll has done in his short 5 years of ruining the perception of the Video Gaming market. The United States already has a bad image of what Americans are truly like and Rambo amplifies that to the power of 10. Other than what Saturnwatcher has already pointed out the movie alone without the political overtones is just one big glorified CGI induced slaughterhouse with a supposedly sympathetic theme. Sorry, I can't support Boll topping that. |
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