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    Posted: February 24 2008 at 4:04pm
Well, Old Betsy 2 won an oscar for best costume design.  I have to admit I was impressed with the costumes in this picture.  However, it was just one of many things done well in a movie that went so wrong. . . .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 8:58am
No, I like the way the Oscars nominated Norbit, last year's Poseidon (or 2 years), and Surf's Up. I'm happy Happy Feet won instead of the stupid Cars...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2008 at 1:31am
One friend referred to the Oscars as being nothing but "politics".  With nominations like this and the one for Norbit, I feel she's right.  It doesn't matter how well someone performed or how great a make-up job was if it's in a movie that's bad.  You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
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Yes, the Academy really loves their mainstays.

I think her nomination is pretty damaging to their credibility; it further fuels the notion that the award show isn't as concerned with honoring good film as it is with how it presents itself. This is not a good film, and it is not a good performance.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2008 at 10:41am
....does the Academy like her THIS much?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bruin_522 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 3:42pm
Yeah, she was nominated for an Oscar for the first one. And I don't think she should receive one for this one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 2:27pm
You're right, Nadir007, this isn't the worst film, especially in a year where we have way too many to choose from.  I'm just bowled over by how many good things turned out so, so wrong.  And I'm incredulous that Cate Blanchett was nominated for an Oscar for this awful sequel.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nadir007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 8:43am
Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Okay, I have an idea here...it will satisfy everyone. If anyone wants to pick this up and run with it, it's yours for free:

Make a movie about Prince Phillip entitled, Why DID I GET MARRIED To That B*TCH ELIZABETH (My Cousin)

Sometimes I actually feel sorry for ole Phil. Not only does he have to go through life being his cousin's freeloading husband, but the poor guy is so emasculated that he spends half of his time wearing skirts.



That's not offensive to the Scottish nation.. at all...

...or the British royal family and people that respect them (the reason escapes me, personally - I'm not about to confuse personal beliefs with ethical conduct however)

So... maybe completely off-topic posts that are obviously going to be offensive to some people at a very personal level and do harm to the reputation of the web site/organisation/meme/project (let's face it, we all want to be a meme)... maybe they can be deleted?

And the people involved given a message to the effect that they should try tact or complete silence as an alternative to obviously offensive off-topic posts?

Just a thought.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nadir007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 7:53am
I have to defend this film a bit. It was merely poor. Well, poor to really quite bad. A 1.5 out of 5 stars. A 3 out of 10. Not a 0 out of 5 stars. Those films are special and should be cherished. This is really nowhere near "the worst movie ever made", anyone who says words to that effect should really take a moment to remember the competition for total awfulness is very VERY intense.

Costumes and makeup will/have been get/got nominations and they were very good costumes and makeup. Can't say that aspect rocks my world but the effort is to be appreciated. For goodness sake, when someone turns out to be competent or talented don't disrespect them because other people in the production are horribly misguided directors or incompetent screenplay writers.

The seasoned actors, Blanchett, Owen, Rush and Morton (an undervalued actress) were all doing their best, often REALLY trying (and it was), but it's obvious they didn't really have any cohesive direction (in the sense of 'a Director') in much the same way Natalie Portman in the Regrettable Star Wars Episodes ended up like a talking plank of wood largely because George Lucas couldn't direct his way out of heavy traffic. I can't help feeling Clive Owen gave up pretty early on - he seemed to be playing Robin Hood for all anyone knows.

So, 5 points for effort, minus several million for 1) mangling history and turning interesting events, magically, into boring ones, 2) the most  embarrassingly nationalistic parochial jingoistic Anglo-centric perspective of said history ever conceived by... er... an Indian (?!?), 3) making the Spanish humorously like Klingons, 4) having a story that makes very little sense and makes you wonder why they bothered, 5) did I mention a black and white view on history that's both annoying and really dull? and 6) throwing away the collective talents of numerous nominally very (very) good actors.

Disappointing but not really in the same league as Norbit or I am Legend (which seems to have, so far, escaped being called the dog of a film it is... must do something about that... Most Derivative Motion Picture award? Most Pompous Title But That's The Least Of Your Problems? Most Boring Horror/Suspense Film (after the 1960s)? The Help Help The People From 28 Days Later Are Suing Us award? The Most Money Spent For So Little Effect award? The Was That A Zombie Or Has Gollum Turned Up award for Derivative Live Action Character CGI Effects? It hurts us my precious!)

Oddly, Liz the Golden Age is doing quite well on IMDB with a 6.7 or so out of 10 rating. I guess people can have low expectations.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote whennow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 5:39am
Looks like some people were still resentful of Blanchett losing and got her an Oscar nomination. Plus there was a nomination for the costumes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sanndman228715 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2007 at 1:50pm

Even SAG (although SAG made some really good choices this year). My three favorite movies that I've seen in 2007 all got nominated for Best Performance by an Ensemble Cast: No Country for Old Men, 3:10 to Yuma, and American Gangster. And kudos to SAG for nominating Viggo Mortensen as Best Actor for Eastern Promises, and Tommy Lee Jones for Best Supporting Actor for No Country For Old Men. ( I think Jones was just as great as Bardem was in that film). 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2007 at 2:24pm

Now SAG has nominated Cate Blanchett --  I have to wonder if they actually watched this movie, or were just going on memories of the original Elizabeth

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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 10:56am

For this reason, if Blanchett's on the Razzie Nominating Ballot, I'm voting for her!     

Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Golden Globes nominated her for the same two awards today. If she also ends up a Razzie contender, she may pull a James Coco (Nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie for the SAME performance).

 

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Golden Globes nominated her for the same two awards today. If she also ends up a Razzie contender, she may pull a James Coco (Nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie for the SAME performance).

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote cvcjr13 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 3:46pm

They must have slept really well when they [ahem!] reviewed E:TGA.  

Originally posted by Sanndman228715

Cate Blanchett got nominated today by the Broadcast Film Critics for Best Supporting Actress for I'm Not There (Which everyone knew was coming), and also for Best Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age ( Which I'm sure no one saw coming), usually I agree with The Broadcast critics (The other nominees looked fine to me), but this is a bit of a head scratcher, to say the least.

 

 

 

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Cate Blanchett got nominated today by the Broadcast Film Critics for Best Supporting Actress for I'm Not There (Which everyone knew was coming), and also for Best Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age ( Which I'm sure no one saw coming), usually I agree with The Broadcast critics (The other nominees looked fine to me), but this is a bit of a head scratcher, to say the least.

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