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    Posted: December 21 2010 at 5:17pm
I ate mine too.
Pictures move, do they?
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I already ate it... 


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Yes, yes I did. Do I get my cookie now?
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Wow!You turned my 10 ratings into 5!Snap!
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That's fine, that works. But as for things like "one of the best, one of the worst, etc.", that's really not a movie review thing, it's more of year in review or decade in review thing. As a reviewer, you're suppose to judge the movie on it's own merits in the PRESENT DAY, not what it's place in movie history will be ten years from now. You're spreading the quality meter too thin. "Excellent" and "great" are interchangeable as one degree; "good" is a stand alone degree; "okay", "average" and "mediocre" can all be combined into one degree; "bad" is a stand alone degree; "awful" and "horrible" are interchangeable as one degree. You see what I mean?  

Originally posted by Vits

If I use the 5 stars it's: Very Good, Good, Average, Bad and Very Bad.
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Yeah, 50% on RT is nothing to get all excited about. That's far from being able to go all "See, see! 50%, that means the movie is good and not razzie worthy!" (a common excuse used by Gee-Wiz). But as I have been saying, my perferred methods of movie rating systems are 1-5 stars or letter grades, hence why I translate percentages into letter grades. But hey, that's just me. I'm sure everyone uses RT ratings differently ... like Gee-Wiz thinking anything not below 20% MUST be "good". 

Originally posted by Mayhem5185

I always thought the whole taking rotten tomatoes as a literal grade to be kinda silly, the one thing that metacritic does right over RT is that they explain what the score means rather than provide a vauge consensus. for example a 50% means mixed or average, which is farfrom an F (Not saying it's a good rating, just saying that your looking at it the wrong way)

A 50%ish score on RT doesn't mean an F, it means that about half the critics didn't like it and half of the critics did, thats means that critics were split on the movie, and not a failing grade. So in a way maybe Gee-Wiz does have a point to some extent... although just saying that in itself is an oxy-moron.
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If I use the 5 stars it's: Very Good, Good, Average, Bad and Very Bad. Most people I know prefer that. But as a reviewer (I don't call myself a critic because it's not my job) I analyze everything in the movie, so it's One Of The Best, Excellent, Great, Good, Okay, Average, Mediocre, Bad, Awful, Horrible, One Of The Worst.
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And as for school grade point averages, as you have seen from my debates with MWG, I apply them to RT ratings. Where as he would consider 50% to be a good thing, I see it as an "F", since that was the GPA method in school. To each his own I suppose.

I always thought the whole taking rotten tomatoes as a literal grade to be kinda silly, the one thing that metacritic does right over RT is that they explain what the score means rather than provide a vauge consensus. for example a 50% means mixed or average, which is far from an F (Not saying it's a good rating, just saying that your looking at it the wrong way)

A 50%ish score on RT doesn't mean an F, it means that about half the critics didn't like it and half of the critics did, thats means that critics were split on the movie, and not a failing grade. So in a way maybe Gee-Wiz does have a point to some extent... although just saying that in itself is an oxy-moron LOL
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Suits yourselves, guys. It's just in my opinion, you can't get more specific than "1-5 = great, good, okay, alright, bad", rather than "1-10 = within the range of being good, within the range of being bad", etc.
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Okey, intresting Vits. Can you explain how you mean specific?
I myself prefer the 1-10 system because I rarely give film a 9 out of 10. So one can imagine how much status the few films have that get a 10 out of 10 (same goes the other way around for a 1 out of 10 rating)

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Yeah.At first I used to use that system too.I prefer the 0-10 because my opinion on a movie sounds more specific to me.
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Yeah.At first I used to use that system too.I prefer the 0-10 because my opinion on a movie sounds more specific to me.
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I still prefer 10 degrees for myself, but will admit that I understand why critics use it. It is a clearer system.

I do also have to admit that I never understood why a reviews always included a rating of the film. It doesn't make the words printed on paper stronger. So to me it always seemed a bit unnecessary.

Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

Vheid, sorry if my wording upset you, but I was just going by what I was taught to be the correct movie rating system that is embraced by professional critics. You do have to admit, having five degrees of quality is easier to understand than 10 degrees, that's why it's the system that critics use.
 
Vits, my opinion, it was more like this according to that system. Laughs: 10%, Directing: 20%, Acting: 5%. 35% = F.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2010 at 1:20pm
Vheid, sorry if my wording upset you, but I was just going by what I was taught to be the correct movie rating system that is embraced by professional critics. You do have to admit, having five degrees of quality is easier to understand than 10 degrees, that's why it's the system that critics use.
 
Vits, my opinion, it was more like this according to that system. Laughs: 10%, Directing: 20%, Acting: 5%. 35% = F.
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I usually use the rating system from my country:

7,0=100%
6,5=90%
6,0=80%
5,5=70%
5,0=60%
4,5=50%
4,0=40%
3,0=30%
2,0=20%
1,0=10%
0=0%

By in sites like this I choose to write one that you all understand.

Art is an abstract concept,and in movies I consider it the quality of the technical aspects.

Laughs:90%
Directing:40%
Acting:50%
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2010 at 11:02am
I didn't mind that you believe your own system works better than other systems. It's just that claiming there is just one REAL system comes over as a bit judgemental (or even arrogant).

I asume this wasn't your intention, because so far you came over as a reasonable/rational person.

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I guess it varies from person to person. To me, 1 to 10 ratings make no damn sense. At what point is the movie bad or good? 1-3 is bad? 4-7 is okay? 8-10 is good? 1 to 5 is so much simpler. 1 is bad, 2 is alright, 3 is okay, 4 is good, 5 is great. See, simple. Same goes for letter grades. A is great, B is good, C is okay, D is alright, F is bad.
 
And as for school grade point averages, as you have seen from my debates with MWG, I apply them to RT ratings. Where as he would consider 50% to be a good thing, I see it as an "F", since that was the GPA method in school. To each his own I suppose.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BurnHollywoodBurn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2010 at 10:32am
Originally posted by Vheid

I find this statement a little harsh. I think there is a surden personal preference in every ratingsystem. That doesn't mean one system is better than the other (as long as you can get your message across).

In my highschool they graded tests/exams with a one through ten rating. I myself would use this anytime before using a one through ten rating or rating something with letters, simply because I am more comfertable/used to this system. It doesn't mean my rating counts to a lesser extend because I don't use the same system that critics use (or the system that American high schools use).
I guess it varies from person to person. To me, 1 to 10 ratings make no damn sense. At what point is the movie bad or good? 1-3 is bad? 4-7 is okay? 8-10 is good? 1 to 5 is so much simpler. 1 is bad, 2 is alright, 3 is okay, 4 is good, 5 is great. See, simple. Same goes for letter grades. A is great, B is good, C is okay, D is alright, F is bad.
 
And as for school grade point averages, as you have seen from my debates with MWG, I apply them to RT ratings. Where as he would consider 50% to be a good thing, I see it as an "F", since that was the GPA method in school. To each his own I suppose.
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