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GTAHater767
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Topic: A Dickens of a MESS?!?Posted: January 27 2010 at 7:49pm |
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When this movie was first released, I thought this movie looked bad. While it's by no means among the best films of 2009 or any of the best Christmas movies ever, it's far from being really bad. It's been virtually disbarred from the 2009 RAZZIES, and the reviews were mixed, about 30% positive, 20% negative, and 50% of them average.
Perhaps the worst thing about this film is that it provides more questions than answers. The biggest question is: If the first weekend of November is usually 7 or 8 weeks before Christmas, why release it so soon if most movies can't spend that long in theatres?
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 2:26pm |
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I'm curious about The Fantastic Mr. Fox... Wes Anderson has been really hit or miss lately, but it seems like it should be good. Of course, Transylmania is going to win the Best Picture Oscar, as anyone with a brain should know.
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Posted: November 19 2009 at 2:05am |
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"Up" would be the ultimate dark horse for Best Picture. "Beauty and the Beast" was the one and only animated feature to get a nod for Best Picture, and no other animated film has been nominated before or since. The Oscars are known for liking live action, so don't get your hopes "up" ...no pun intended.
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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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saturnwatcher
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:14am |
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This year, for the first time in quite awhile, there are actually a lot of quality films in the running for Best Picture. I admired Up, but I don't think that outside of the animated category, it is even in the top 10.
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Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 9:51am |
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I'm actually hoping UP to be nominated for Best Picture and not Best Animated Feature. Family Guy did that with the Emmy's.
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 5:46pm |
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I hope to see Coraline, 9, Ponyo and Up among the 5 Little Gold Naked Men nominees for Best Animated Feature. And I hope to see Alvin & the Upchucks 2 among the Big Gold Naked RAZZberry nominees. . . .
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Posted: November 11 2009 at 7:29am |
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This movie is now one of the 20 qualifying films in the running for the Oscar as Best Animated Feature.
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 8:36pm |
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I'm reading Dickens words right now. . . . It's interesting to find that different scenes from the book have been depicted in different movies. For example, the men shoveling snow off their roofs throwing snowballs at each other is unique to this film. It's also interesting to find other scenes which have never yet been filmed as far as I recall. For example, in the book, the Ghost of Christmas Past grows noticeably older before Scrooge's eyes as the day goes by, and the hand of the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come is a spectral hand, not a skeletal hand. And there is no horse-driven hearse chasing Scrooge through the streets of London. Apparently, Zemeckis took the hearse that went up Scrooge's staircase at the beginning of the book and converted it into a chase scene later in the movie. Now, I wouldn't nominate the movie for any of the usual Razzies, but if I could nominate a single scene from a movie, this particular scene is bad. It has nothing to do with the story, it kicks up my disbelief (rather than suspending it) it borrows from Lewis Carroll to shrink Scrooge (for some odd reason) and it is ridiculous. It is as preposterous as the scene of stampeding brontosauruses in Peter Jackson's King Kong. I know I'm in rare company around here for liking that movie, but the brontosaurus stampede was ridiculous and should have been re-thought and re-done if not completely cut out. The same goes for the hearse scene in this movie. So, I propose this year's "Nuke The Fridge" award, in honor of Spielberg and Lucas giving us such a ridiculous movie scene, goes to Robert Zemeckis for the hearse chase scene in A Christmas Carol.
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 4:04pm |
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There are so many filmed incarnations of this story that asking 10 different people here is apt to yield 10 different answers. For my money, scrap all the filmed versions and read Dickens words.
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 2:51pm |
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Ok. You're right. I'll respect his/her opinion until Michaels respects mine. But anyway, which is the best movie version of the Christmas Carol story? I heard the 1951 version is the best. RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Since it is the most faithful to Dickens' original text -- And Alistair Sim perfectly captures the before-and-after versions of Scrooge -- I would concur that the 1951 British remake of A CHRISTMAS CAROL is the best done so far. The worst would have to be one of the Hanna Barberra animated ones -- Either A JETSONS' CHRISTMAS CAROL or A FLINTSTONES CHRISTMAS CAROL, both of which were done as holiday TV specials decades after the original shows left the air...
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 1:14pm |
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With all due respect, he very well may be completely sincere in his dislike for this movie, and he is well within his rights to express those feelings. I had a very similar reaction to District 9. I didn't walk out, but I was certainly close. It may well be that you liked this movie, MWG, but at least respect an honest and well expressed difference of opinion. |
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 4:48pm |
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I saw the film today...
It's not bad... I have to eat my words and say... "This. isn't. Razzie worthy" With that confession out of my system, it actually wasn't bad. It's not the best movie ever, though. Decent at best, with some fun moments and great visuals. Carrey is actually very good in the film, in all of the roles... but it was pointless to have Gary Oldman do the part of Tiny Tim. His "motion-capture" in that role was so edited that they should have saved the money and got a real kid to play the part |
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 1:35pm |
You are seriously exaggerating how much you loathed this movie. Like it or not, it won't be nominated in every single category. It has decent reviews and audiences went to see it. |
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:28am |
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Until today, Shakes the Clown was the last movie I walked out of. This
bastardization of Dickens book is so dreadful it deserves as many RAZZIE nominations as it can gather. Worst Actor, Worst Supporting Actor, Worst Screen Couple are absolute locks. with Worst Picture, Worst Director, Worst Remake and Worst Screenplay deservedly bringing up the REAR! A new category should be established for Worst Effects, because that deserves a nod too! There are just so many CGI effects one can take before ODing with retinal hemorrhages! |
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:03am |
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The Ghost of Christmas Past is neither a woman with a bright light on her head or a human-like candle. It's something that is weirder, something I have difficulty imagining. Here's how Dickens describes it: It was a strange figure -- like a child: yet not so like a child as like an old man, viewed through some supernatural medium, which gave him the appearance of having receded from the view, and being diminished to a child's proportions. Its hair, which hung about its neck and down its back, was white as if with age; and yet the face had not a wrinkle in it, and the tenderest bloom was on the skin. The arms were very long and muscular; the hands the same, as if its hold were of uncommon strength. Its legs and feet, most delicately formed, were, like those upper members, bare. It wore a tunic of the purest white, and round its waist was bound a lustrous belt, the sheen of which was beautiful. It held a branch of fresh green holly in its hand; and, in singular contradiction of that wintry emblem, had its dress trimmed with summer flowers. But the strangest thing about it was, that from the crown of its head there sprung a bright clear jet of light, by which all this was visible; and which was doubtless the occasion of its using, in its duller moments, a great extinguisher for a cap, which it now held under its arm. I'm not sure why Zemeckis, after talking about how different the original Ghost was from all its staged and movie depictions, would then create a whole different creation from either one. It sounds like a hippie in a white dress covered with flowers whose appendages vary at random, whose head doubles as a searchlight and who holds an oversized candle snuffer with the intials "ES" scrawled on one side. Maybe I can imagine this Ghost. Okay, now I'm scared. . . .
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 2:26am |
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My words, it's all there! Mind you, I've only read the first part of the book, and Zemeckis did add things, but not nearly as much as other directors have added to past versions of A Christmas Carol. But most of what Zemeckis did add, or subtract as the case may be, came from the original text itself. Scrooge signing Marley's will? In the book. The guide dog dragging its blind master out of Scrooge's way? In the book. Bob Cratchett sliding down an ice hill where a bunch of boys were playing? All in the book! And what about the rebuke of Cratchett for using coal, or his going over to the exchange where he had the conversation with the charity raisers? Not in the book, because, as Zemeckis showed it, the coal bin was in Scrooge's office under his sight (although Zemeckis locked it up), and the charity fundraisers came to Scrooge's office to have that famous and portentous discourse about the surplus population. The Internet is amazing, by the way. All the books that are public domain, instead of buying a cheap copy at the bookstore like we used to, or buy a copy to read on your Kindle like they do now, you can instead read them online for free. Here's A Christmas Carol, courtesy of Stormfax. By the way, Cratchett is unnamed in this first section, and apparently a lot younger than even in Zemeckis' version, judging by him sliding down an ice slide 20 times and then running home to play Blindman's Bluff. He's not a boy though, because it says he did it only in honor of Christmas Eve. And, with all the other scary things Zemeckis added, why didn't he add Scrooge seeing a "locomotive hearse" going up the grand stairway before him as he was going to bed? That would explain why Scrooge searched every room to make sure everything was safe and double-bolted his own bedroom door. Oh, well, you only have so much time and so much money to do things.
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