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    Posted: January 19 2012 at 7:13am
Yes, I remember ROBERT PATTINSON in his the best role: TWILIGHT!  I love him in it! = )  


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Originally posted by 27years

Out of curiosity, what do you think he could have done to give a better performance in this particular role? What would take it from okay to really good in your eyes?
Frankly, I think he should have turned down this role all together. He needs to have a serious sit-down talk with his agent and say "Look, no more broody prettyboy roles, okay? I'll do that for "Twilight", but once I'm done with those, I'd like to do other things".
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I defend him out of decency not pity. "Okay, plain or simple" are your words for describing his performance not mine. I have always maintained that he did a really good job with this. But at least you attempted to critique it in an unbiased manner (a few posts ago) and looked at his performance in this movie alone and agreed it wasnt bad. I believe a lot of people don't do that as they are clinging to their Edward feelings which is their error and in the case of actual critics unprofessional in my eyes.
I personally don't care that he may of had to be a bit broody in this movie too. I think if an actor wants to play a certain character thats up to them. Perhaps if this was still happening years later I might think, oh I wonder if he can play something else for a change. I think it is premature to put him in him a box, label it, and be reluctant and stubborn about taking him out of it. But thats just me. 
Out of curiosity, what do you think he could have done to give a better performance in this particular role? What would take it from okay to really good in your eyes?
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Originally posted by 27years

The reason its worth defending is that a lot of people just jump on the anti-Rob bandwagon and describe his acting as awful when in fact it wasnt awful at all. 
I mean why bother defending him when his performance did nothing to prove his critics wrong? Now if he gave an amazing, unforgettable performance and critics are still ripping him apart, THEN you should be defending it. But giving an "okay, plain, or simple" performance is not going to silence his critics any time soon, and defending such a performance kinda makes you come across as defending him out of pity.
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The reason its worth defending is that a lot of people just jump on the anti-Rob bandwagon and describe his acting as awful when in fact it wasnt awful at all. 

I actually think your analysis in the last post is a much more objective and credible synopsis than some I've seen from people.
I still maintain he did exactly what was needed for the character but perhaps the character itself isnt strong enough for people to really take him seriously yet. But like I say its early days for him and I wouldnt write him off just yet.

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Originally posted by 27years

Okay plain and simple do you think he did a bad job playing this character?
"Okay, plain, and simple" would be how I would describe how he played his character. If his role in "Twilight" were taken away, and I was judging him on this performance alone, I wouldn't be thinking "Wow, now there's a future star right there". I would be thinking "Eh, nothing to get excited about, but not Paris Hilton bad either. He needs some work before getting a star making role". So an "okay" performance is nothing worthy of defending.
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Okay plain and simple do you think he did a bad job playing this character?
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Originally posted by 27years

You're still bringing other things in to the equation when you say he showed a facial expression besides pouting for once. Looking at this movie alone, he did everything this character required of him and did it well. What would you have him do differently in this role?
I'm not looking for miracles here. I'm not saying it was the most amazing thing ever, just that it was good and most certainly not bad.
The fact being that you're defending him even though you admit that he didn't do anything all that impressive. He only "did what was required of him and did it well". That's all fine and dandy, but that's not going to get his critics off his case. This role wasn't going to change anyone's opinion of him. Perhaps his next non-Twilight movie will, but I wouldn't count on it.
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You're still bringing other things in to the equation when you say he showed a facial expression besides pouting for once. Looking at this movie alone, he did everything this character required of him and did it well. What would you have him do differently in this role?
I'm not looking for miracles here. I'm not saying it was the most amazing thing ever, just that it was good and most certainly not bad.
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Originally posted by 27years

The point I'm making is this. Just focusing on his acting in this movie and not taking anything else into consideration. He did a good job.
Even by just this movie's standards, he didn't anything all that impressive, other than showing a facial expression besides pouting for the very first time.
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The point I'm making is this. Just focusing on his acting in this movie and not taking anything else into consideration. He did a good job.
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Sorry, but saying that Gosling and Franco can't out-act Pattinson is like saying Marlon Brando couldn't out-act Keenu Reeves! Goslin and Franco have shown great range in both emotion and roles, something Pattinson has yet to do. Goslin has played everything from a Neo-Nazi to a school teacher with a drug addiction, to a socially awkward man who falls in love with a sex doll. Franco has played everything from a super villain, to a pot head, to a doomed mountain climber, to James Dean. And neither actor played those roles the same way.
 
Pattinson has played the brooding prettyboy who is a vampire, the brooding prettyboy who needs a life coach, the brooding prettyboy during 9/11, etc. You call that range? Sorry, but this movie didn't prove ANYTHING about his acting talent, and if you think otherwise, wow, you're easily swayed.
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In my opinion what someone has done before shouldnt be what people judge on. They should go by what they actually see in this movie. If people were to just focus on his acting in this movie and not just complain that he has played a broody character before and is Edward Cullen, they might see that he did a good job in this movie. He played the character well, which actually required more than brooding, and did it convincingly showing me that he has talent. Some people are just too blinded by Twilight obsession to see it. Infact I think this was a smart role choice for him as it allowed him to be a bit comfortable in what he was doing while also pushing himself to go a bit further than before. 
As for if Gosling or Franco would bring something more to this particular character, maybe, given their experience, but I wouldnt think it would be all that different. It doesnt take from the fact that he did a good job with this. Like I said before there probably is room for improvement but I like to give credit where it is due and I think it is due here.
Even if people think the brooding role is what he has perfected for now, thats pretty commendable in itself (especially in this role),  and he really is just beginning to test the waters out there so who knows what he might perfect next. 
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Well, I'm sorry about people's "prejudices and malevolence", but as I have stated before, people are critical by nature and if they strongly dislike something, they are not going to sit there with a fake smile and say "Oh, that was so good". That's just the way it is. If you don't want to be faced with negative movie reviews, then simply don't get into the movie business in the first place, because you can never avoid bad reviews.
 
Now, I know you think Pattinson has talent, and for all we know, he does. HOWEVER, judging from the six or so movies that he has appeared in here in America, he hasn't proven anything yet besides perfecting the art of playing the token brooding guy. Gosling and Franco have proven themseleves with great emotional and complex roles, and as a result have Oscar nods to their credits. I bet if either one of them had gotten the role, they would have played it DRAMATICALLY different than what Pattinson did. The day Pattinson stars in something groundbreaking and gives a performance that blows everyone away, I will be the first to admit he has talent. But until that day, he is just the go-to guy if your movie calls for a brooding prettyboy.
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Yes I'm very probably in a minority here Burn but I think there is no harm in trying to point out peoples prejudices and malevolence. He did so much more in this movie than a lot of people give him even the slightest bit of credit for and that kind of pisses me off. Even the people that do give him credit like Mr Ebert get ignored. I think if this role had been played the exact same way by someone like Ryan Gosling or James Franco there would be high praise for them. Yes it may be a bit pouty and broody but thats not the point. The point is he did it pretty well yet some people just refuse to see that. 
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27Years, in the end, people saw this movie as "same old, same old" from Pattinson. Pout, brood, rinse, report. Just give it up and admit that a very large percentage of people just plain don't like Pattinson. I know you feel it's unjust, but much like Vits or MWG with their love of all things M. Night, you need to accept the fact that you are of a minority.
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