QuoteReplyTopic: Did Disney's HUNCHBACK deserve a screenplay nom? Posted: August 16 2010 at 12:29pm
It's not so much what's implied, it's how it's presented. What's presented in "TCM" shouldn't be witnessed by children.
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To HeadRazz dude: No. Im just saying deaths off screen arent any less horrific than deaths on screen. It's what's implied and not shown than can be truley disturbing. But yeah, Hunchback aint really for kids.
Oh yeah. Of the two ("Hunchback" and "Incredibles") "Hunchback" is in no way for childern!
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Agreed. But as for the hunchback of notre dame, that film was about relegious intolerance, racisim, disfigurement and even featured a song about rape, hell, and sin (Hellfire is the title, the scene with it can be found on youtube, and the animation is brilliant). It seems very complex and for adults, though the film was marketed towards children.
Yeah, but "TCM" is a horror movie in every way of being dark and scary from start to finish. Off-screen deaths aside, "Incredibles" is still a very comical and lighthearted movie.
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre features deaths and violent acts shown off screen, but I still find it horrific anyway. Thogh most kids are too dumb to even follow basic plots anyways...
RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Surely you're not suggesting that TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE is something that, in any conceivable way, should be shown to children???????????
Children should be frightened by the off-screen deaths of superheroes with whom we never really make a connection? And even with the capes-are-bad parody, the heroes in that case all died comedic deaths, hardly all that dark.
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But the mass extermination of superheros? That seems a little dark to me. I mean srsly...a superhero holocaust! Oh well, six seems a pretty good age to strt i guess.
Sorry fellas, but I believe that children should be made aware of death, rather than it be kept a mystery that they don't understand. I'm not saying it's a concept that should be taught to them as soon as they are able to speak, but it's something that they should know about. And like I said, the ripe age to do so would be around 6 years. Personally, I don't find it all that shocking for a villain in a kids' movie to display a disregard for human life, as this is a common staple of Hollywood bad guys and an extreme that certain people would be willing to take in order to achieve his/her goals based on his/her outlook on life and society.
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So ur saying if the realities are grim and true, its ok to show to kids? I doubt it. Would you want your kids knowing about death and betrayl and the difficulties of ageing and family at certain young ages? I wouldn't. I'd still say six is a pretty good age to start tho, so agree with you there.
Exactly. The scene where the villain decided to kill the kids was shocking as well.
Originally posted by ramonesun
I find the film was dark by childrens standards. You had death through plane engine chopping u up, then there was the extermination of hundreds of heros, the reality of death, coming to terms with failure and old age, and the responsiblilties of adulthood. Those don't seem like the themes and events of childrens films. So bravo disney, you can give adults a thrill ride as well!
By those standards, Bambi is the darkest movie ever made. I think Walt Disney understood that we don't need to completely shelter children from some of the more difficult realities of life.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
I find the film was dark by childrens standards. You had death through plane engine chopping u up, then there was the extermination of hundreds of heros, the reality of death, coming to terms with failure and old age, and the responsiblilties of adulthood. Those don't seem like the themes and events of childrens films. So bravo disney, you can give adults a thrill ride as well!
Hey, they may seem like grim realities, but they are realities none the less. And while some may consider them "dark themes", no one really died on-screen. And rule of thumb in cartoons, so long as they don't die on-screen, it's safe for kids. At the most, kids under 6 shouldn't see it, that simple.
The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.
I find the film was dark by childrens standards. You had death through plane engine chopping u up, then there was the extermination of hundreds of heros, the reality of death, coming to terms with failure and old age, and the responsiblilties of adulthood. Those don't seem like the themes and events of childrens films. So bravo disney, you can give adults a thrill ride as well!
"The Incredibles" was a really dark movie. I was shocked when I first saw it because I thought it would be light and funny, but there's a part in the film that was depressing to watch.
Dark? There's barely anything dark about except characters have to deal with the very real reality of death. You just think it's dark when compared to the rainbows and everyone's happy fluff that Disney usually puts out. "Incredibles" was no darker than any PG movie made before it.
The Four Horsemen of the Moviepocalypse: uncalled for sequels/remakes/reboots, 3-D surcharges, untalented "celebrities", and anything with Michael Bay's name attached to it.
"The Incredibles" was a really dark movie. I was shocked when I first saw it because I thought it would be light and funny, but there's a part in the film that was depressing to watch.
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