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collin2
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Topic: SOME BAD CHOICESPosted: December 30 2011 at 12:18am |
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Matthew Broderick and Hank Azaria didn't get nominated at all? I'm sorry, but I thought they were worse than Maria! Matthew even sounded like he was reading off of cue cards!
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Posted: May 25 2011 at 7:36pm |
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I don't think that DeForrest Kelly should have gotten a 1989 Razzie nod for STAR TREK V.
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Posted: April 17 2011 at 8:23pm |
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I think it was a result of a "we're sick and tire of hearing about your love triangle with Jude Law and his nanny for a whole year" sort of thing. Yes, Miguel, love triangles exist in real life, too!
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"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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Posted: April 17 2011 at 2:16pm |
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Sienna Miller didn't even deserve to be nominated for G.I. JOE: RISE OF COBRA.
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Posted: October 31 2010 at 3:16pm |
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True, true. It's guilty pleasure for the 12/13 year old in all of us. But it seems Razzie voters at that time just thought there were other movies that year that were much, much worse when compared to this early Marvel attempt at breaking into movies.
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Posted: October 30 2010 at 9:42pm |
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I have to say that I am amazed that "Sheena, Queen of the Jungle" didn't have any wins in 1984. As a stupid kid hitting puberty at the time, I loved the film and saw it many times over. But as an adult who is well past the period in which a Charlie's Angel can so completely dominate my faculties and slant my judgment, the film has to be one of the worst movies of all time, and both the leads have to be among the worst actors and actresses of the decade!
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 11:53am |
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ramonesun
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 9:58am |
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But thats not the point. The point im making is that Americans love to hate. So haters of Star Wars would be just as vocal as lovers of Star Wars. But yet here we are, with less complaints of star wars, way way less, than the praise of star wars. As for Shatner and Stallone, I garuntee most people would consider them artists. Your giving them so little credit its bordering on insanity. Even if you think them not artists, their seems to be little credit on their skills as entertainers as well. That's just wrong in general. Weres the respect? The admiration? I could show you again and again youtube clips or videos that show the true talent of these actors. Talent and artistic credibility you refuse to acknowledge.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 5:59pm |
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Yes, people love to hate, but there are just somethings out there that make it so damn easy to make fun of OR hate because they have little, if any, redeeming qualities, ie. Bush, Kardashians, Twilight, ... Stallone and Shatner, etc. And yes, Americans like crappy stuff because ever since the settlers landed in what would one day become America, we've been lazy as can be and anything that requires little effort is celebrated. Why else would we be the fattest country in the world?
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 5:11pm |
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I think people love to make fun of things they hate. The Bush administration, twilight, The Kardashians, etc. The list goes on and on. People make carreers out of hating crap (hint hint, whoever made this website), and in a world full of injustice and unoriginality, there is certainly a lot more to dislike than like. Books are made attacking filmakers, authors, leaders, and their works. So why not Star Wars. Face it, people love to hate. It's the sad truth. In fact, thats why many people see remakes. Most people dont take remakes of classic horror films seriously now, but go to them anways, to laugh at the incompetent work of the filmakers who created them, and the actors. Also, the reason remakes and sequels are constantly made, is because people like familiarity, even crappy familiarity. For instance, not every James Bond film is perfect, but its become something of an American tradition to see one everytime one comes out. Even though James Bond went through something of a dark period from the late eighties through the ninties and early 2000's. America has something of a bizzare love affair with the mediocre. Crappy food, poppy music, remakes....the list goes on. The only way to survive being laughing and ridicule of said crap (hence the razzies).
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BurnHollywoodBurn
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 10:39am |
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On the subject of remakes, sadly, when you're a die-hard fan of something, you're going to see each any every remake/sequel of your favorite movie series, no matter how bad the last one is, in hopes that the newest movie will make up for the last one ... kinda like a certain fan we have here at the forum who is having wet dreams about seeing the 5th "Final Destination" movie. As for "Star Wars" haters, come on, if people really hate something, are they really going to waste every waking moment of their time bitching and moaning out loud about how much they hate it for everyone in public to see? Nah. Granted, people on Fox Noise Channel do that, but at least they are paid for it. Chances are they are just doing to keep quiet about it and pretend like the thing they hate doesn't exist in their minds.
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Posted: August 13 2010 at 8:38pm |
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I know many people remake films because the first ones made money. I'm saying that the people who see the remakes often don't end up even liking them. So the film may make money, but the people who saw the remake probably left feeling their money was wasted. Its almost like someone taking a horrible, body-abusing drug over and over, hoping the next trip will be as good as the first lol. Like thats gonna happen :P
I would think Star Wars haters would be quite vocal though. If there's anything more fun than seeing a great movie, its trashing the crap out of a bad one (as this website proves).
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Posted: August 13 2010 at 6:08pm |
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Actually, "The Godfather" was the original blockbuster, followed by "Jaws". Then "Star Wars" came around and by that time it was like "Okay, f*** art, let's make a s***load of money using formulas!", thus "Star Wars" is considered the final push in which Hollywood changed it's game plans. Also, the hordes of fans prove nothing. I'm sure just as many haters of "Star Wars" exist, it's just that they don't waste their time and money gathering together at sci-fi cons to declare their hatred or writing entire essays about how much the movies suck. And as for critical vs. cash value, sorry, that's wishful thinking. The reasons why all these remakes/reboots/sequels are being made is because the original movies made money, even if they were panned by critics.
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 10:23pm |
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The people versus george lucas tackled the prequel trilogy and the speacial editions more than the original films themselves. Also, it was Jaws that started the summer blockbuster trend, two years before star wars. And although no study is taken, you can see that the hordes of fans, the articles and books praising the series, and the overall reception greatly outnumbers the haters of the first three films at least. If you dont belive me go on google and see how many articles you can find that trash the original trilogy, then see how many praise it. The proof is in the numbers! Also, Disney popularity is different than critical popularity, as disney popularity is commercial popularity. For instance, a lot of people saw the friday the 13th remake, making it lots of cash. But even though lots of people saw it, they ended up not liking what they saw, hence its low CRITCIAL RATING on rotten tomatoes. Popularity in films arent measured by cash, but by critical value. If love towards a film was measured in mollah, then people would be going around dressed as Jason Statham in Death Race (perish the thought). |
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 8:49pm |
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Many seriously question if the influence made by "Star Wars" was a good or bad one. Many debate that it is the movie that helped ruin filmmaking, and started the Hollywood craze of making a blockbuster first and caring about the art of filmmaking second. Like saturnwatcher, I also question if the public would have been better off if the movie was never made. I'm sure the world of movie making would be very different if those movies didn't exist. And sorry, there is no proof that the movies are loved more than hated. A documentart entitled "The People Vs. Geoge Lucas" explores this by showing equal sides of the argument about if Lucas and his films had either negative or positive effect on people's childhoods and lives. Also, yes, I'm not doubting "TJ Hooker" and "Dukes Of Hazard" were entertaining and had impacts on pop culture, but they shouldn't be spoken about as if they should be compared to truly criticially acclaimed series like "I Love Lucy" or "M*A*S*H".
And your arguements in defending the movies because people liked them is no different than your unsupported comment about more people liking "Star Wars" than hating it. Just because something is popular, that doesn't make it good, look at 99% of the stuff that the Disney Channel produces that is popular among little kids. Shatner was a failure in "ST 5", mostly likely because he was wearing too many hats and he couldn't act and direct at the same time and he suffered on screen because of it. Sorry, but regardless of your opinion of the movie, many see it as one of the worst movies of the 80s, no matter how much you want to down play it, and that is why it was razzed.
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Posted: August 12 2010 at 11:58am |
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They are not just opinions, but informed opinions. Most big volumed books on television history contain a passage on TJ and Dukes somewere (though im not calling them masterpeices, just entertainment). I know, Ive read two such books. Secondly, considering star wars is the most influential film of the last 30 years or so (im too lazy to do the math since 77), I would say the world would be quite different without it. And at a loss too. Those films are loved way more than hated, thats for sure....WAY, WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY more. But anyways, ur missing the point. Im not here to talk about all the star wars films, nor hooker. Im here to adress Trek 5 (over 50% on RT, and therefore above average, since it includes public opinion), Indy four (76%), and the star wars prequels (all above 50%). Blair witch too (85%). Why nominate films that more people like or feel so so about, when you could be nominating truely crappy films? That is the question i bring up. Shatner wasnt perfect in trek 5, but he wasnt bad either. He was typical shatner, which most people tend to enjoy. And surely it didnt deserve a nominee as worst film of the 80's! There was so many films that sucked way more than that movie.
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