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    Posted: September 19 2011 at 10:02am
The Scream series has always been funny. It's not just horror. It's a comedy/horror series that points out the conventions of other horror films. And I disagree, the opening scene was genius!

Originally posted by Vits

The opening scene was a major headache.To quote SOUTH PARK(sorry GTA)about INCEPTION "Just because an idea is very complex doesn't mean it's cool".By the end of the opening scene,I thought I was watching a spoof of SCREAM because they focus more on being cleverly funny than scary,and that remains that way the rest of the movie.

Well, I think it's a great thing. The sequels never really quite reached up the potential of the first. The whole mom plot got out of control since the third film. 

The 2nd and 3rd movie tried to tie the events and the new killer to the backstory of the original movie.Here,they just talk about what we saw in the present of the 1st movie.No mentions of SIDNEY's mom or anything.Is that good or bad?That's up to you.

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I am a huge fan of the first two and despite its visible flaws 3 is a guilty pleasure for me. However, even critics these days are liking 4 more than 3 and it just barely missed out on a fresh rating on RT.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2011 at 5:49pm
Oh...I didn't see that movie,I just assumed.
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Originally posted by Vheid

I disagree... You said it yourself "She's not really lead here"... The movie is clearly told from Neve Campbell's p.o.v. and she doesn't even nearly has as much screentime as Neve... So.. She is is deffinetly not a lead actress...
Right,but she's the lead in the other movie.So it would make more sense if she's nominated for one lead and one semi-lead performance.


Freddie Highmore is the lead in The Art of Getting By.... The story is clearly told from his P.O.V. .... She's (as far sa I know) just the romantic interest... She's playing the same character that she played in It's Kind of a Funny Story...As far as I could see from the promotion of TAOGB.... I however have to get back with you on that after I've seen the movie...
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Originally posted by Vheid

I disagree... You said it yourself "She's not really lead here"... The movie is clearly told from Neve Campbell's p.o.v. and she doesn't even nearly has as much screentime as Neve... So.. She is is deffinetly not a lead actress...
Right,but she's the lead in the other movie.So it would make more sense if she's nominated for one lead and one semi-lead performance.
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Originally posted by Vits


,so I wouldn't like that you just nominate Emma,only because she was in another movie.

What does that have to do with her acting?


I won't be voting for her just because she was in another movie...

I found her acting in this movie far bellow average.... and in that scene she was just all over the top... I'll be voting for her.... If she's on the ballot... and you can do nothing to stop that...

Originally posted by Vits

By the way,she's not really the lead here but she's very close,so if she does get nominated it should be up for Worst Actress and not Supp. Actress.


I disagree... You said it yourself "She's not really lead here"... The movie is clearly told from Neve Campbell's p.o.v. and she doesn't even nearly has as much screentime as Neve... So.. She is is deffinetly not a lead actress...

Originally posted by Vits

If she didn't check her pulse is because...well,she forgot.She's a psycho killer,and they always make mistakes.


That's no excuse... If she's is planning the PERFECT CRIME (as she said), she should have made sure that her victim is actually DEAD... You can't defend that... It's just an enormous gaping plot hole in the movie... and Wes Craven or Kevin Williamson should have noticed it when it was written...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vits Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2011 at 2:02pm
I just saw it.

Does anyone here watches COMMUNITY?There's an episode where a character wants to make the ultimate meta movie,so he's constantly saying "we're inside a movie within a movie and we're making a movie" and stuff,and it helped me realize that being meta isn't that hard after all.The opening scene was a major headache.To quote SOUTH PARK(sorry GTA)about INCEPTION "Just because an idea is very complex doesn't mean it's cool".By the end of the opening scene,I thought I was watching a spoof of SCREAM because they focus more on being cleverly funny than scary,and that remains that way the rest of the movie.This is a horror movie.I'm glad it tries to be clever,but being scary and/or suspenseful it's the most important.All this movie has is the same cheap jump-scares that any bad horror movie you can mention(that wasn't mentioned in this movie).Also,I may be wrong,but here there are even more characters discussing horror movies,except they're more like statements from intelectual people.Kevin Williamson was talking through the characters,and all he really said was "I'm smarter than you,audience member".

The 2nd and 3rd movie tried to tie the events and the new killer to the backstory of the original movie.Here,they just talk about what we saw in the present of the 1st movie.No mentions of SIDNEY's mom or anything.Is that good or bad?That's up to you.

The performances are...meh.They're all equal(except for Neve who's so uninspired),so I wouldn't like that you just nominate Emma,only because she was in another movie.By the way,she's not really the lead here but she's very close,so if she does get nominated it should be up for Worst Actress and not Supp. Actress.

I give this 4/10.
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Apparently, Scream 3 was released in February of 2000. It got mixed reviews, which is probably why it wasn't considered for the RAZZIES.
It got around 35%.That's negative.
Originally posted by Vheid

I want to suggest Emma Roberts for the Worst Supporting Actress-ballot.
*spoiler*
She is the killer. First of she stabs Sidney "to dead" without checking her pulse (which is plain dumb writing) and then you see 3 minutes of her cutting herself, stabbing herself and walking in to walls (so that she looks like the soul survivor) this looks extremely silly and is worth a Razzie-mention.
*end of spoiler*
What does that have to do with her acting?If she didn't check her pulse is because...well,she forgot.She's a psycho killer,and they always make mistakes.
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Being meta today isn't hard.But being good at it...
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

You don't honestly think this is a $hit movie, do you?
Uh, YEAH! If I wanted a bad movie that self-parodies how Hollywood is obsessed with remakes and reboots these days while not giving us anything better on it's own merits, I would wait for Seltzerberg to do "Remake Movie".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GTAHater767 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by moviewizguy

[QUOTE=BurnHollywoodBurn]You don't honestly think this is a $hit movie, do you?
 
At least I don't think it's total sh(beep). I thought it was merely average from what I know about it. I don't agree with you that it's a very good movie, but I agree that it doesn't deserve any nominations. On the other hand, it was mostly my fault this forum was here. I drew attention to it back in February, thinking it would crash because it's a sequel to a movie from a decade ago, until the reviews turned out to be middling. Little as we need this sequel, it's simply not bad enough to be one of our prime targets.
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Originally posted by BurnHollywoodBurn

I have a better thought, knowing how bad of a shape Hollywood is in due to the influx of remakes, reboots, and torture porn, how about instead of being a self-parody about all those scourages of modern day cinema, maybe they should NOT MAKE A 4TH INSTALLMENT TO A MOVIE THAT PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT A DECADE AGO! No, this movie was s***, and they would be insane to waste money making a 5th movie, but hey, that's never stopped Hollywood before.
You don't honestly think this is a $hit movie, do you?
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Originally posted by moviewizguy

Scream 4: 8/10 - Easily the best film in the franchise. I loved how they lampooned on remakes, reboots, and the recent wave of torture porn films. I also loved the fact that the film acknowledges its own pointlessness and how tedious the Scream series have become through the Stab series in the film. Come on. The opening scene was pretty genius. Only Kevin Williamson could have made that up. I also have to say the third act was pretty ingenious with a climax that is really fan-freakin'-tastic. Scream 4 proves to show that all sequels can't be bad and that there is still some life in this franchise.
I have a better thought, knowing how bad of a shape Hollywood is in due to the influx of remakes, reboots, and torture porn, how about instead of being a self-parody about all those scourages of modern day cinema, maybe they should NOT MAKE A 4TH INSTALLMENT TO A MOVIE THAT PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT A DECADE AGO! No, this movie was s***, and they would be insane to waste money making a 5th movie, but hey, that's never stopped Hollywood before.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moviewizguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2011 at 9:48am
My thoughts of the series:

Scream: 7/10 - It's a pretty enjoyable slasher with intelligent characters and fresh dialogue.
Scream 2: 6/10 - I have to admit that it's a good sequel but there were so many flaws that kept me from enjoying the film a lot more, like the fact that the killer knows where the characters will be. For example, when the killer attacked the two cops, that was complete BS. I also hate the fact that the killer kept popping out of nowhere, as if a ghost itself (must be why they call him Ghostface).
Scream 3: 6/10 - While not a good film, it was an enjoyable one. Seriously, there were some stupid things in here, especially the killer reveal. However, putting Courteney Cox and Parker Posey together was genius. Their scenes provide some of the series' biggest laughs.
Scream 4: 8/10 - Easily the best film in the franchise. I loved how they lampooned on remakes, reboots, and the recent wave of torture porn films. I also loved the fact that the film acknowledges its own pointlessness and how tedious the Scream series have become through the Stab series in the film. Come on. The opening scene was pretty genius. Only Kevin Williamson could have made that up. I also have to say the third act was pretty ingenious with a climax that is really fan-freakin'-tastic. Scream 4 proves to show that all sequels can't be bad and that there is still some life in this franchise.
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It's not the Oscar that Harvey wants (well, he does want it, but not for this movie), it's the payoff that he seeks!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Vheid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2011 at 8:14pm
Vits, indeed but it would be crazy to go through with those plans if Scream 4 is a box office bomb (what it technically is)
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