There's a story that when The Fountainhead was being turned into a movie, Rand flew into a fit when she learned the film-makers planned to abridge the six-minute speech. Also, Ayn's forward to Atlas Shrugged states that she's the only author in history to write about a new idea. As you can all tell, Ayn had a massive ego. Also, she idolized a child killer and based several of her characters on him.
Ayn Rand pretty much lived her life (and wrote her books) based on the credo that one should never say in one sentence what can be stretched out to 50 or 60 pages. One can understand why all those tedious books from the Victorian era (that English teachers love) are so long and tedious -- the authors got paid by the word, and their works were serialized originally in the contemporary publications. Ayn Rand, on the other hand, was just a long-winded blowhard who really didn't have anything relevant, or even logical to say. But that didn't stop her from taking 1200 pages per book to spew her nonsense...
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I take issue with one point: I think L. Ron Hubbard knew he was a charlatan. Ayn Rand actually believed the nonsense she espoused. So there is a difference...I can sort of forgive someone who just believes something stupid. I don't have nearly as much tolerance for someone who sells nutty ideas knowing full well that they are nutty ideas...
Originally posted by Michaels
Originally posted by Vits
So...it's like L. Ron Hubbard all over again?
Kind in mind, Hubbard's work was more like long-winded companion pieces to his crazy, made up religion. Hubbard's own son has admitted that Hubbard would claim that the real money isn't in writing books, it's in creating and running your own religion.
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So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture. Some of the cast might also receive consideration. What about other possibilities?
Worst Sequel, Prequel or Remake? It is a prequel after a fashion, since two more installments were originally planned. The fact that they almost certainly won't get made could be viewed as splitting hairs. I could also make a case for this as worst remake. As noted above, The Fountainhead was made into a movie back in the 40's. Granted, this isn't a direct remake, but since Rand's career was built upon rewriting the same book several times anyway, one could reasonably argue that it is effectively the same movie also.
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I guess it all depends on whether Razzie voters get around to actually seeing this movie.
Originally posted by saturnwatcher
So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture. Some of the cast might also receive consideration. What about other possibilities?
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
I completely disagree. I am a voting Razzie-member living in Europe and will probably not find a copy of this movie in time for voting. Of all the categories, I at least hope that the titles on the Worst Picture-shortlist will be widely available...
Originally posted by saturnwatcher
So, considering that this movie has been butchered by critics and is destined to be a box-office disaster even with an incredibly modest budget, this obviously has to be considered for Worst Picture.
Just out of curiuosity, won't it be difficult for a lot of Razzie-voters
to find a copy and see this film before voting begins. I mean it is
already in limited realease and there are no real big names attached. I
don't want to be pesemistic or anything but i doubt that my video rental
place will have a copy when it's released on DVD
It will be interesting to see how well they stuck to the plot of the book. For anyone who saw the fountainhead they will be aware that the book and movie were quite a bit different; especially in the way the characters were portayed. I wasn't a huge fan of either and most of Ayn Rand's work is mediocre. logbook loans Just my 0.02c :P
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It probably won't be that hard to find a DVD copy of this. Unless Blockbuster goes out of business before January 2012 (not entirely impossible) there should be any number of un-rented copies collecting dust on their shelves by then. I imagine a similar situation will prevail at most rental outlets.
Originally posted by crewman
Just out of curiuosity, won't it be difficult for a lot of Razzie-voters to find a copy and see this film before voting begins. I mean it is already in limited realease and there are no real big names attached. I don't want to be pesemistic or anything but i doubt that my video rental place will have a copy when it's released on DVD.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
There are no shortage of nuts that are claiming that the world is going to end on May 21 anyway. But I am willing to make them a simple wager. I've got a thousand bucks that says it won't. If they win, I'll give them the money. If I win, they have to put up just as many billboards that say, "Dear Jesus, you have stood me up for the last time."
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
2. The billboard people can't collect, because the world will have come to an end!
But I like your Jesus billboard idea. Another good slogan would be Jesus saying "Don't bother holding your breath for my return, I'm going to take awhile."
Originally posted by saturnwatcher
There are no shortage of nuts that are claiming that the world is going to end on May 21 anyway. But I am willing to make them a simple wager. I've got a thousand bucks that says it won't. If they win, I'll give them the money. If I win, they have to put up just as many billboards that say, "Dear Jesus, you have stood me up for the last time."
"Just once I want my life to be like an 80's movie ... but, no, no. John Hughes did not direct my life." ("Easy A", 2010)
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