Guess what??? In the original Rocky 5 script Dah Sly Guy had Rocky Balboa killed off. But when he got ready to shoot the scene, he had a change of heart. He was quoted as saying, "It would be like killing off Superman". Typical Stallone: He can't even leave his own original scripts alone!
Response from Head RAZZberry: I do recall reading about that when ROCKY V was in production. I think he was supposed to die in a street rumble of some kind. As for Sly's "killing Superman" remark, in his case it would've been more like "killing off the cash cow"...
Response To Head RAZZberry: It was the "Street Rumble" near the end of the movie with Tommy Gunn (Tommy Morrison) that he was supposed to "buy the farm" after Rocky had "won" yet again (In Real life Tommy Morrison was a worse professional boxer than Stallone himself)!
That was pretty much what I was thinking of the "killing Superman" remark, but could not find the "appropriate words" to describe it. I guess Dah Sly Guy foresaw he would have to save a couple nuts for a rainy day.
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Yo RAZZ: I just got done seeing "Time to Die...or Retire" and the person who made it seems to be right on target with Stallone's career path. It was both entertaining and enlightening.
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Words to live by: "Money doesn't make you happy. I now have $50 million but I was just as happy when I had $48 million." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Gosh, you guys can be harsh! Stallone even says in an interview that he understands the critisism of this sequel, but that he didn't like how #5 came out. Many years ago I heard that he planned to end the franchise with Rocky dying, maybe you "anti" fans will get your wish. But I personally love Rocky and Stallone (as much as I can, not REALLY knowing him) and hope you guys have to eat worms when December rolls around....
Now, Now, oh Fan of 30 Years....let us not digress down the path of your other colleague #1 Sly Fan and retort to name calling.
Also on some of the advance feedback I have gotten "We" as you put it will not get our wish, but it looks like "You" will. I hear it ended as a Stalemate as Rocky "losing" but you still here the "Rocky, Rocky" in the background as he is walking away.
Like I said before typical Stallone!
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Words to live by: "Money doesn't make you happy. I now have $50 million but I was just as happy when I had $48 million." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
I hope that the ending is still a "feel good" ending whether he wins or not. I hear that he filmed 4 different endings and so there is just speculation on which one he will use. Either way, I will be there to see...
If Stallone follows his usual trend of making himself seem "immortal" then I have no doubt that it will have that "Feel Good" ending that you and the rest of the Stallone Fan Base will be happy with.
Me and I am sure a lot of other non die hard Stallone Fans would respect Mr. Stallone more if he would show some realism to the picture by shooting a more "realistic ending", however I know this will not happen and will not hold my breath, since I do not want to die either.
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Words to live by: "Money doesn't make you happy. I now have $50 million but I was just as happy when I had $48 million." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
I don't necessarily need to see Rocky WIN for it to be a feel good ending. I don't particularly want to see him die either, but if he dies, having succeeded in reassuring himself he isn't "another bum from the neighborhood", or something like that...I would still consider it a great movie.
As big a fan as I fancy myself to be, I don't particularly want to see him win either...not that I would hate it, but I would like to see this movie win over more fans and there just seem to be so many people that insist on "reality" even though this is all "acting" ... I mean, you stated to me before that you were a fan of the first and second movies... "reality" would never have the world heavyweight champ stoop to fighting a NOBODY (much less demanding another fight with the same bum who already did what no one else has ever done - Go the distance) most especially someone with Apollo's ego...but it happens everyday in the MOVIES!!!!!!!! It is a break from REAL life that builds hope and inspiration. So the others didn't deliver as well. So what! It was entertainment...it got us out of our, boring, too stressful, problem riddin', lonely (whatever the case may be) worlds! Go Rock!
Maybe Stallone will pull out a decent performance, I mean, he pulls out one every decade. ( In the 70's it was Rocky, in the 90's Cop land, in the 80's it can be argued that he was good in Nighthawks, which I never saw, but people have told me that it was one of his better roles.). We'll see.
Oh Saturn, you are so creative with your comments... Oh well, Obviously the non fans and the fans will just have to agree to disagree. I for one am thrilled beyond words that I will be getting the opportunity to see Rocky Balboa on December 22nd. I know I will enjoy the movie. And I hope that those non fans that go to see it to make fun or whatever... I hope you are pleasantly surprised.
I am happy you are thrilled about it. I'm happier that I have the option of watching a good sports movie which will be released the same week. Rather than being an ego vehicle for a washed up actor, We Are Marshall tells a true story about tragedy and human perseverance. I'll catch Rocky Balboa on video sometime when I have absolutely nothing else to do.
Nine times out of ten, in art as in life, there is no truth to be discovered, only an error to be exposed.--H.L. Menken
I will catch We Are Marshall as well, I know it is a true story, and I expect it to be a very good movie. But I will see it AFTER I catch RB at least a couple of times in the theater.
I think I will just stay at home and watch my new HD TV I am buying my wife for Christmas (after our old one literally blew up!). We're using a 20 inch I am going to give to my kids once she gets the new one. Since they got rid of our local bargain Theater, I will probably wait until Rocky Balboa comes out on DVD and can buy it for a few dollars. Besides, I'll be busy watching my DVDs of Superman Ultimate Edition (Except III and IV, both of which were totally ignored in Superman Returns Thank God!) through my 6.1 home theater system.
Response from Head RAZZberry: Maybe Santa ought to check if Mrs. Claus reads this Forum before posting what she's getting for The Big Day. Congratulations, and enjoy!
Response to Head RAZZberry: Mrs. Claus knows what Santa is getting for her (She made it impossible to keep it a secret) but does not get to see and enjoy her present until Christmas Day (the suspense is killing her, trust me). She does not unfortunately read this forum but will be present at Razzie night with me as you pass out the prestiges Razzberry's for our deserving worst.
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Topic: TRAILER for ROCKY BALBOA
Stallone even says in an interview that he understands the critisism of this sequel, but that he didn't like how #5 came out. Many years ago I heard that he planned to end the franchise with Rocky dying, maybe you "anti" fans will get your wish. 
But I personally love Rocky and Stallone (as much as I can, not REALLY knowing him) and hope you guys have to eat worms when December rolls around....
