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    Posted: January 17 2008 at 9:37am

Here's a LINK to watch Tom Cruise's rambling, almost incoherent diatribe about what Scientology (and "KSW"??) mean to him, as posted at Defamer. They claim the church asked You Tube to pull it down... 

 

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You are not supposed to understand it. It's a part of the cult scheme. They want to make you join the cult in order to understand what he says. Here the explanations of some of the abbreviations:
"SP" : Suppressive Person = Critic / opponent of Scientology
"PTS" : Potential Trouble Source = Somebody likely to become a critic or opponent one day.
"KSW" : Keep Scientology Working = something along the lines of applying Scientology principles anywhere and anytime. For instance the case of Andrew Morton, since he was critical of the clams (= $cientologists http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html) in his book, he might be declared an "SP" and be "fairgamed", which is the Scientology equivalent of a Fatwa.
"LRH" : L.Ron Hubbard, the founder of the cult
"ethics": the cult principles = instructions on how to behave like a psychopath.

Tommy Boy is a liar. I put some other links to his boards.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saturnwatcher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2008 at 2:52pm

Call me an SP who considers Scientology to be BS. (I hope I don't have to explain that one)

Hey, Marlene...didn't you used to have a different name around here?

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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Hey, Marlene...didn't you used to have a different name around here?



Yep, I have a lot of names and they are all over the place. See, saturnwatcher, my multiple personalities fail to communicate with oneanother as soon as I lose the list with my names and boards and passwords I use. My psychiatrist charges me extra because he really has one hell of a job when I don't know where my list of names is.


Anyway, here, Washington Post on Crazy Crui$e:
"PLEASE, SOMEONE TURN DOWN CRUISE
By Neely Tucker

Mom! Tom Cruise is scaring people again!....................
In the video, still posted Thursday on Gawker, Cruise is wearing a black turtleneck and talking to an interviewer about how he wants to help and how he's met with 'leaders' all over the world and how they want his help, and how Scientology is 'wild and woolly' and how he doesn't like people sitting on the sidelines of life, and how he's 'canceled that in my area'. And he keeps laughing really LOUD and he keeps showing all his teeth and barely blinking and I got really scared but I watched the whole thing even if I didn't want to, and now I can't sleep without the light on.
"We are the authorities on getting people off drugs, we are the authorities on the mind, we are the authorities on improving conditions," he says, while 'Mission Impossible'-type music be-bebops in the background. "We can rehabilitate criminals....We can bring peace and unite cultures."
Yeah, but what if he really means it? Like the part when he talks about driving by a traffic accident, and he knows he has to stop, because as a Scientologist, "you know you're the only one who can really help." If you're on the ground there beside the highway, your car totaled, a crowd gathering around, and nobody calls 911 but some guy hollers, "Is Tom Cruise here? Tom?" And what if he is?
He talks a lot about Scientology in stern terms - "You're on board or you're not on board" - and says "Now is the time, OK? Being a Scientologist, people are turning to you, and you better know it. You better know it."
It's not really clear what 'it' is, Mom, but we're guessing it has to do with the basics of Scientology.
He doesn't stop there! He starts talking about 'suppressive persons!" That's SPs in Scientology terminology. These are people who attack or don't like Scientology. Boy, he really doesn't like them.
"They don't come up to me and do that. They won't do it to me. Not to my face. Not anywhere in my vicinity.....where they feel they can be....confronted. They're just not doing it."
Yeah, yeah. I know. It's just a movie star. It's just something like in the picture show. I'll try to forget I ever saw it.
But could you leave the light on? "
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Cruise is an mentally unstable demagogue with a worldwide celebrity bully pulpit.  There, I said it, sue me.  If he had his way criminally dangerous schizophrenics would be taken off their psychiatric medication and given auditing instead (!).  Drop all the smirky fanboy jokes about his "magic powers" for a second and think soberly and seriously about what that means to the lives of yourself, your family and friends.  There are lots of people who need to be on psychiatric medication for simple reasons of public safety and Cruise wants to eliminate that.  His views are literally dangerous to human life, and if he can't see that, I have to doubt that he even has a conscience.

If Scientology is a religion, it is a religion of greed, paranoia and fascism. Germany is right to classify it as a business, and consider banning it as such.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SchumacherH8ter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2008 at 2:59am

There's a funny video of Jerry O'Connell spoofing this. He really nails the maniacal Tom Cruise laugh.

Response from Head RAZZberry: Here's a LINK to watch O'Connell's often hilarious spoof of Lil Tommy on YOU TUBE... 

 

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Tom Cruise is a liar. He stated in his $cientology promotion video, taped in 2004, that "SPs" [=Suppressive Persons / critics of $cientology] didn't come up to him. This is not true. He was confronted with $cientology beliefs and $cientology activities by Spiegel during his promotion of "War of the Worlds" (27.04.2005):

"SPIEGEL: We visited one of your locations near Los Angeles and were amazed to find a fully staffed tent of the Scientology organization right next to the food tents for the journalists and extras.

Cruise: What were you amazed about?

SPIEGEL: Why do you go so extremely public about your personal convictions?

Cruise: I believe in freedom of speech. I felt honored to have volunteer Scientology ministers on the set. They were helping the crew. When I'm working on a movie, I do anything I can to help the people I'm spending time with. I believe in communication.

SPIEGEL: The tent of a sect at someone's working place still seems somewhat strange to us. Mr. Spielberg, did that tent strike you as unusual?

Spielberg: I saw it as an information tent. No one was compelled to frequent it, but it was available for anybody who had an open mind and was curious about someone else's belief system.

Cruise:The volunteer Scientology ministers were there to help the sick and injured. People on the set appreciated that. I have absolutely nothing against talking about my beliefs. But I do so much more. We live in a world where people are on drugs forever. Where even children get drugged. Where crimes against humanity are so extreme that most people turn away in horror and dismay. Those are the things that I care about. I don't care what someone believes. I don't care what nationality they are. But if someone wants to get off drugs, I can help them. If someone wants to learn how to read, I can help them. If someone doesn't want to be a criminal anymore, I can give them tools that can better their life. You have no idea how many people want to know what Scientology is.

SPIEGEL: Do you see it as your job to recruit new followers for Scientology?

Cruise: I'm a helper. For instance, I myself have helped hundreds of people get off drugs. In Scientology, we have the only successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. It's called Narconon.

SPIEGEL: That's not correct. Yours is never mentioned among the recognized detox programs. Independent experts warn against it because it is rooted in pseudo science.

Cruise: You don't understand what I am saying. It's a statistically proven fact that there is only one successful drug rehabilitation program in the world. Period.

SPIEGEL: With all due respect, we doubt that. Mr. Cruise, you made studio executives, for example from Paramount, tour Scientology's "Celebrity Center" in Hollywood. Are you trying to extend Scientology's influence in Hollywood?

Cruise: I just want to help people. I want everyone to do well.

Spielberg: I often get asked similar questions about my Shoa Foundation. I get asked why I am trying to disseminate my deep belief in creating more tolerance through my foundation's teaching the history of the Holocaust in public schools. I believe that you shouldn't be allowed to attend college without having taken a course in tolerance education. That should be an important part of the social studies curriculum.

SPIEGEL: Mr. Spielberg, are you comparing the educational work of the Shoa Foundation with what Scientology does?

Spielberg: No, I'm not.Tom told you what he believes in, and after that I told you what I believe in. This is not a comparison between the Church of Scientology, the Shoa Foundation and the Holocaust. I was only showing you that some of us in Hollywood have set out to do more than just be actors or directors. Some of us have very personal missions. In Tom's case, it's his church, and in my case, it's the Shoa Foundation, where I'm trying to help other people learn about the mortal dangers of pure hatred. (...)"

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,353577,00 .html
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I'm tired of empty promises from drug rehab programs, and it's especially hard to accept such claims from a religion that actively seeks out "PSTs" to be "fairgamed" in order to "KSW."  What are these statistics that prove that Narconon is "the only successful drug rehabiliation program in the world?"  Has anyone independently verified these statistics, apart from Scientology itself? 

And since when have statistics become "proven fact"?

Tell you what.  Let some outsiders evaluate the experiences of 100 drug users going through Narconon for the first time.  Or will the outsiders be dubbed "SPs" if the outcome isn't good?  Or, even worse, will the drug counselors be dubbed "PTSs" if there are any failures? 

The only successful drug rehab program is the one that gets you off of drugs and keeps you off of drugs.  Many people have done this in many different ways, and I don't know any of those ways that work for everybody.  I doubt Narconon is any different in this regard.

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Originally posted by Bonogamy

Cruise is an mentally unstable demagogue with a worldwide celebrity bully pulpit.  There, I said it, sue me.  If he had his way criminally dangerous schizophrenics would be taken off their psychiatric medication and given auditing instead (!).  Drop all the smirky fanboy jokes about his "magic powers" for a second and think soberly and seriously about what that means to the lives of yourself, your family and friends.  There are lots of people who need to be on psychiatric medication for simple reasons of public safety and Cruise wants to eliminate that.  His views are literally dangerous to human life, and if he can't see that, I have to doubt that he even has a conscience.

If Scientology is a religion, it is a religion of greed, paranoia and fascism. Germany is right to classify it as a business, and consider banning it as such.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/
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It has been said that the most difficult aspect of coming to the defense of personal liberties is that you are going to find yourself spending a lot of time defending scoundrels. It is precisely in this spirit that I hesitantly come to the defense of Cruise.

I think Scientology is a set of nutball ideas, supported by financial pyramid scheme all woven into a religion. (My philosophies toward most of the planet's other religions aren't significantly different.) However, if Cruise or anyone else wants to adhere to it, and even attempt to recruit others to it, thank whatever Gods may be that we live in a country where it is still permissable for them to do so.

I don't worry all that much about Scientology because most of the morons who fall for its nonsense would be soaking up somebody else's were it not around. Further, Scientology's weird financial structure precludes all but the extremely wealthy from getting all that involved. I worry a lot more about some of the stuff that is being fed to the minds of the populace free of charge lately.But the bottom line is, everyone has the right to make their own choices in these matters. As folks in my circle say, "So many idiots, so few comets."

As an expensive object lesson that I hope most of the people in this country have come to learn as the reult the errors of its present leaders over the past 8 years, you can't fight ideas with laws or bullets. You fight them with better ideas. So when the Scientologists set up their tents, or the Adventists come knocking at my door with their copy of the Watchtower, questions are a much more forceful arsenal than anger.

It is curious that from the Bible comes the line, "Better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness." Interestingly enough, the day we all begin to approach our affairs with precisely that philosophy, all of the planet's current religions will wither on the vine.

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Does that mean we can't rag on Tom Cruise anymore? . . .

Originally posted by saturnwatcher

Interestingly enough, the day we all begin to approach our affairs with precisely that philosophy, all of the planet's current religions will wither on the vine.

 

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No...I've done my share of that too.  

However, when people begin promoting ideas like the wholesale censure of Scientology, a line has been crossed. By my way of thinking, let these people not only talk, but shout from the rooftops. The price we pay for free speech is having to listen to a lot of nutball ideas. The benefit is that those who espouse them invariably expose themselves as nutballs... 

 

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Originally posted by saturnwatcher

No...I've done my share of that too.  

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